Persona charts

September 12, 2020 at 13:56 (UT/GMT)
(Gemini) stigmí
Persona charts
Today I found this tool on astroseek —> 9 persona chart…

“ As those who follow the stars, we have many tools available to us to gain insight into facets of our being, and the archetypal energy present within not only our psyche, but very souls. One of these tools is know as the persona chart. The persona chart is the chart cast by using the time the sun passed over a particular planet or other celestial body/point in your natal chart.”
“ Persona Charts are calculated for the Sun´s first contact over each natal planet.

These Persona Charts might express our own sub-personalities within each of us.
We can treat each Persona Chart like a normal horoscope, but we should keep in mind that it is not our natal chart - it´s "just" the chart of one of our sub-personalities within us.
All Persona Charts happen within the first year after our birth.”

Does anyone work with this?
I found it very interesting for self - knowledge or to help understand more each persona type in chart.

I will send some interpretations I found...

Have a nice day :74:

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September 18, 2020 at 08:00
(Virgo) MarvinReal » stigmí
: ))
September 18, 2020 at 07:53
(Gemini) stigmí » MarvinReal
Thank you : )) :15:
September 18, 2020 at 07:52
(Gemini) stigmí » bluerosepetals
Yes : ) it is really amazing how it fits and how it explains more each part of chart : )
I spend very much time by is really very very detailed work x)) :15:
September 17, 2020 at 20:18
(Virgo) MarvinReal » IIyyaarr13
Yeah, but there is a way around it. As usually. :44: :5:

1) open the link of nine-persona-chart-astrology-online-calculator
2) click Calculate
3) click on some Persona chart, e.g. Jupiter Persona "Chart" link
4) before computer/phone finishes calculating you are already changing the settings to the correct one by click on "Edit birth data and settings".
5) Click on "Extended settings: House system, Aspects, Orbs"
6) Apply sidereal zodiac, whole house system, fixed orbs for aspects, select all aspects you want, now you can enjoy semisextile, and even you can *climax* with orbs for declinations. ;)
September 17, 2020 at 19:33
(Pisces) bluerosepetals
This is so great. It shed a lot more light and detail on some of my placements. It explains why my Jupiter isn´t working as well as it should in much more depth than just that Jupiter-Saturn square in my natal chart. It shows why my Ascendant and the way I come off to people is so complicated and sometimes off-putting to some. My Venus makes a lot more sense with the Persona chart having a Scorpio Ascendant conjunct Pluto. It´s like several facets of people´s personality, tendencies, and potentials explained through a few separate charts.
September 14, 2020 at 14:42
(Pisces) 1janos
Without the intention of being nit-picking, it mat be worthwhile to discover, that the word ´psyche´ actually means breath, life and soul.

Interesting way of looking at the data. Will have to examine this in depth.
September 14, 2020 at 11:22
(Taurus) IIyyaarr13
Each of these Persona Charts are shown as "whole sign"
Which means the Angular house cusps are poking into houses rather than delineating houses! :41:
September 13, 2020 at 08:53
(Gemini) stigmí » RohiniMoon
:15: :4: :99:
September 13, 2020 at 08:52
(Gemini) stigmí » MarvinReal
Yes nodes too x))
And IC persona x))

You are welcome :74:
And thank you to share precious discussion .
September 13, 2020 at 08:50
(Gemini) stigmí » bluerosepetals
x)) :22: ...i will try it too... Its very variable :74:
September 12, 2020 at 18:19
(Gemini) Fallen_Mage » fishscales
Same here honestly. :S
September 12, 2020 at 18:05
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » stigmí
Thank you for this!

You put a lot of thought in it. Now I have a lot of homework to do. :4: I checked out the Ascendants in each persona chart and so far it´s interesting...
September 12, 2020 at 17:38
(Virgo) RohiniMoon » stigmí
I was looking at these awhile back too, stigmi. . I thought I was the only one who noticed it, lol
September 12, 2020 at 14:10
(Virgo) MarvinReal
Thank you for sharing! :68:

Here was some previous discussion about this.…

"Does anyone work with this?"
I think that ASC Persona, DSC Persona, and personal planets, are all very interesting.
Maybe to try Nodes too. :39:
September 12, 2020 at 14:07
(Gemini) stigmí » fishscales
:61: :61:
September 12, 2020 at 14:06
(Gemini) stigmí » stigmí
And so on ——->…
September 12, 2020 at 14:06
(Pisces) fishscales
Sometimes I feel like there are just too many charts...
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September 12, 2020 at 14:05
(Gemini) stigmí » stigmí

The ascendant of the moon persona chart is how people receive your nurturing, empathetic and intuitive nature upon one on one interaction, and also your initial reaction to new things.

The second house of the moon persona chart is how we soothe and comfort ourselves during periods of stress, and also the values and material things that we emotionally connect to.

The third house of the moon persona chart is how we convey how we are feeling, and how we logically deal with emotions, as well as how we like to nurture those in our vicinity.

The fourth house is dignity for the moon and is where it naturally shines

The fifth house of the moon persona chart shows how we emotionally nurture children, and also how we emotionally express ourselves through creative mediums, and what makes our inner child have lots of fun.

The sixth house of the moon persona chart is the routine that comforts you, and how you like the workplace to be subconsciously, also what you may comfort eat.

The seventh house of the moon persona chart is the emotional connections that we make with the outer world and public, and also the emotional confrontations we may face in life and how we cope.

The eighth house of the moon persona chart is what makes us feel deeply afraid, insecure and unprepared, and is also how sex needs to be emotionally in order for you to feel fulfilled.

The ninth house of the moon persona chart is how you feel emotionally about your own philosophies and other philosophies, foreign things, and travel.

The tenth house of the moon persona chart is how people perceive our feelings and emotional reactions in public, and also what we strive for to satisfy us emotionally.

The eleventh house of the moon persona chart is how try to take care of society at large, and how we feel about society.

The twelfth house of the moon persona chart can indicate what makes us sorrowful, and brings us pain and also shows how we emotionally connect to the divine.

The moon, in the moon persona chart is the reactions, desires and needs that your moon has and needs met, the sun is the “me” of the moon, the mars is the driving desire behind the wants and subconscious needs of the moon, the mercury is how the moon likes to convey its feelings, the venus is what makes the moon comfortable and what the moon wants, the chiron is the deep emotional wounds of the moon and how they are healed, the pallas is how the moon resolves internal conflicts, the ceres is how the moon needs to be actively physically nurtured, the vesta is what the moon likes to commit to, the juno is how the moon emotionally commits to partners and obligations, the uranus is what makes the moon feel off kilter and uncomfortable, the saturn is detriment in the moon and shows what the moon isn’t allowed to express, the jupiter shows the beliefs that the moon holds dear and how the moon grows, the neptune shows where the moon likes to lose itself, the pluto indicates the deep fears and insecurities of the moon.
September 12, 2020 at 14:04
(Gemini) stigmí » stigmí

The ascendant of the mars persona chart shows how your intensity, anger, and sexuality come off to people in an initial one on one setting.((Where your mars sparkles))

The second house of the mars persona chart shows the values, and material things you fight for and strive to achieve.

The third house of the mars persona chart shows how you argue, and what you argue about. As well as what makes you mentally passionate.

The fourth house of the mars persona chart shows what your inner conflict is, as well as with those close to you.

The fifth house of the mars persona chart shows how you go about seducing people into bed, how you toughen up children, and what type of risky behavior is fun for you.

The sixth house of the mars persona chart shows work ethic, and energy level in regards to work, and can also show your views on fitness and exercise.

The seventh house of the mars persona chart shows the types of conflict relationships bring and how you deal with it.

The eighth house of the mars persona chart is a dignity point and where your mars shines.

The ninth house of the mars persona chart shows ideologies you’re willing to fight for, and if you feel welcoming or hostile towards foreign things, and the intensity of your devotion with faith.

The tenth house of the mars persona chart shows how you push and climb the ladder to success as well as your intense aspirations for your path.

The eleventh house of the mars persona chart shows how you network, and what you like to make your friends do.

The twelfth house of the mars persona chart shows what fears we need to conquer, how they are controlling us and how we need to break free. It also shows psychic activity.

The mars in the mars persona chart, shows how your mars gets what it wants, its sexuality and also how it expresses anger and dominance, mercury is how mars communicates what it wants and argues, the sun is the “me” of the mars, the moon is what the mars needs to feel like it can fully express itself, the venus is in detriment in the mars chart and is what your mars seeks in order to calm itself and reach equilibrium, the jupiter in the mars chart shows the philosophies your mars will fight for and the energy towards travel, the saturn shows what your mars must overcome in order to mature, the uranus shows when your mars starts to outcry and rebel for change, your neptune shows how you react to the unknown, The ceres is what your mars needs to feel cherished sexually, the vesta is what your mars commits to, the juno is how your mars approaches contracts and obligations, the pallas is how your mars does battle strategy, the chiron is wounds to the sexuality and sense of power and how to heal from them. The pluto shows the where mars craves power and the darker sexual side of the mars.
September 12, 2020 at 14:03
(Gemini) stigmí » stigmí

The ascendant of the Venus persona chart is how you charm and entice people, as well as your initial reaction towards sensuality, money, and security.

The second house of the Venus persona chart is a place of dignity, and shows a place where your Venus can shine.

The third house of the Venus persona chart shows how you harmonize with siblings and neighbors and what types of beautiful things you like in your immediate vicinity

The fourth house of the Venus persona chart shows what your basic aesthetic is without you trying, as well as what you need to feel peaceful, and beautiful.

The fifth house of the Venus persona chart shows how your venus likes to express itself artistically, and when infatuated. It also shows how you seek harmony with children, and little ones.

The sixth house of the Venus persona chart shows how what you value in the workplace, routine, and health, as well as how you make it more bearable for yourself, it also shows the foods that tempt you the most.

The seventh house of the Venus persona chart shows how the Venus can shine.

The eighth house of the venus persona chart shows how you romantically approach contractual obligations and marriage, as well as how you would morally feel about your joint finances.

The ninth house of the Venus persona chart shows how you diplomatically approach other people’s beliefs, philosophies and ideas, and it also shows what you enjoy in other cultures.

The tenth house of the Venus persona chart shows how you lead when being charming, and it also shows your relationship with authority. This house shows how you make tradition nice, and what structures are beautiful to you.

The eleventh house shows how you diplomatically deal with social circles and friends, and what unique thing you value as beautiful.

The eleventh house of the venus persona chart shows what concept you find to be alluring and enticing, it also shows what you daydream about and how you perceive a “dream mate”.

In the Venus persona chart, Venus is how your Venus deals with things of value, beauty, wealth as well as relationships, The sun is your Venuses “me”, The mercury is how your Venus likes to communicate its charm and values, the mars is detriment in venus and is what your Venus absolutely needs to be satisfied to the point of self destruction, the moon is what your Venus needs subconsciously, The Ceres shows how you need to be loved to feel cherished, the juno shows how your Venus commits, The Pallas shows how your venus handles conflict and how it solves disputes, The Vesta shows the concepts and ideals your venus commits to, the chiron shows how we are wounded in our self worth and what hurts most romantically, The saturn shows what indulgences we must control and how to maintain wealth, Jupiter shows how you see beauty in religion, spirituality, and philosophy, and the importance of politics, Uranus shows where and how we emphasise our uniqueness through our aesthetic as well as our friend groups, Neptune shows how we make the divine beautiful and our relationship with the divine as well as beautiful lies we tell ourselves. The pluto is detriment and shows what Venus grows jealous, possessive and violent about
September 12, 2020 at 14:02
(Gemini) stigmí

The ascendant of the mercury persona chart is how your communication style, and learning style is perceived by others

The second house of the Mercury persona chart is what you mentally find beautiful, and value, as well as your logical stance on the material and financial side of life.

The third house of the Mercury persona chart is like a homebase, and shows where your mercury can shine

The fourth house of the mercury persona chart is what you mentally and logically perceive as home, and the secrets you can’t talk about.

The fifth house of the Mercury persona chart is about what your mercury enjoys to do, how it deals with children, and how it uses its words creatively.

The sixth house of the Mercury persona chart is another home base, and shows other ways your mercury can shine.

The seventh house of the Mercury persona chart shows how you logically perceive enemies and deal with them, and also how you rationally deal with disputes, conflicts, and relationship dynamics.

The eighth house of the Mercury Persona chart shows how you logically perceive death, sex, and joint ventures, and how you organize these things physically, or in your mind

The ninth house of the mercury persona chart shows how you logically deal with philosophy, passions, and travel.

The tenth house of the mercury persona chart shows how the public sees and perceives your communication style, rather than the 1:1 aesthetic of the first

The eleventh house of the mercury persona chart shows how you communicate with friends, and large social circles and how you logically deal with them.

The twelfth house of the mercury persona chart shows how you logically process pain, sorrow, and loss, as well as mysteries of life, and the unseen realms.

In the Mercury Persona Chart, Mercury is how your mercury processes information, the sun is the “me” energy of your mercury,Mars is the driving force behind your need to communicate and organize, Venus shows what makes the mind pleased and pleasured, Moon is what your mind needs subconsciously, Ceres shows how the mind needs to be taught, and in what subjects it will grow the most, Juno shows us how the mind deals with contracts, pacts and deals, Pallas shows us a different perspective of thought that we naturally shift to, Vesta shows us thoughts we always commit to and how we think about them, Chiron shows us painful thoughts and patterns of logic, Saturn is what the mind wants to master, and what it has difficulty with, Jupiter is naturally detriment within the essence of mercury and thus shows what creates disbelief or lapses in faith, Uranus is how the mind reaches the next level, Neptune is detriment here and can show us where we refuse to use logic or see the truth, Pluto shows us what the mind obsesses over and what it is subconsciously passionate about.
September 12, 2020 at 13:59
(Gemini) stigmí
Each Persona is that specific archetype within ourselves:
1. Ascendant Persona: giving you more clues about your ASC (The ASC in a natal chart is a “persona” in itself, the mask, the way we project to others, first impression, our natural immediate reaction, the physical and overall appearance). The Ascendant in the ASC Persona Chart and other overall aspects and houses would give additional clues about the physical appearance. For example, a woman with ASC in Capricorn in the solar chart with ASC in Aries in the Ascendant Persona: Capricorn physical traits, but also athletic, energetic, with direct blunt movements and gestures and possibly Aries features. Going after things in an Aries manner.
2. Midheaven Persona: will tell you a lot about your most suitable career and vocation, an excellent tool for career predictions, but we must also consider there is much more to the Midheaven, it is a point describing your "life peak", so the overall Midheaven Persona describes how you get to this peak, in what circumstances, with what tools, and as a result of what events, and what this peak means, in your current incarnation.
3. NN Persona: your destiny, your direction in life; this is generally a very eventful chart, your NN Persona, with a whole story written in it, from childhood to maturity, and a journal of all the events and lessons along the way.
4. Moon Persona: your emotional personality, needs, Yin energy. In terms of synastry: the Anima of the man.
5. Venus Persona: our “love” personality, how we behave in love, tastes, preferences. Love, beauty, talents, likes, dislikes, another level of Yin energy, sensuality, social success, money, good fortune. In terms of the synastry: a woman’s femininity, a man’s “type”. A Venus Persona ASC offers clues about the type of "beauty" that person has and likes. For example, a man with a Capricorn ASC in the solar chart, ASC in Libra in the Venus Persona: saturnian in appearance, but also beautiful and graceful, more airy than a regular Cap, more charming than the usual Cap etc. but the Cardinal flavor is getting even stronger, so is Saturn more distilled in expression. This Persona will also describe at least a big part of the portrait of his ideal woman.
6. Mars Persona: sexuality, drive, physical body, assertion, Yang energy. In terms of synastry, clues about a woman’s “type”.
7. Mercury Persona: “mental” personality, general mobility, communication, expressiveness, thought processes, skills.
8. Jupiter Persona Chart - luck, expansion, expansive nature, growth potential, teaching, learning, travel, success
9. Saturn Persona Chart - adulthood, maturity, structure, needs, fears, accomplishments
10. Uranus Persona Chart - freedom, originality, creativity, expansion, travel, surprises, the unexpected in your life
11. Neptune Persona Chart - dreams, higher love, spirituality, talents, soul, compassion, redemption, illusion, deep psychology, unexpected tides
12. Pluto Persona Chart - potential for transformation, rebirth, major life events, psychological evolution, potential for power, shared resources, deep sexuality, needs
13. DSC Persona Chart - a profile of how you are as a partner, what partner is suitable for you and what partner you will eventually have
14. IC Persona Chart - your deepest "heart" and heart´s desires profile, vertical look at your personality and psychology, subconscious forces at play, early life background and how you carry it in time, family ties, current incarnation theme
15. Juno Persona Chart - description of your partnership style and needs and of your ideal and destined partner
These are just the main examples. The analysis of a Persona chart always takes into account the position occupied by that planet in the natal chart, as ruler, but also its role as part of the astrological architecture. For example, someone with Sun conjunct Neptune in the solar chart would look at his Neptune Persona to understand his overall personality, the type of Neptune associated with his solar personality. He would be a dreamer, an artist, a magician or a charismatic crook: but what kind of dreamer, artist, magician, crook? This will be shown by his Neptune Persona. Another example, someone with Pluto conjunct the ASC; his Pluto Persona would define his general personality, he is Plutonian for sure, in looks and behavior, but the way he manifests “his” Pluto will be shown by his Pluto Persona chart.
The main personalization here comes from rulership, first and foremost, and in all cases. The Moon Persona of a Cancer DSC is not just his general emotional profile, but also his DSC profile, as explained above.

How to interpret a Persona chart? Some succinct basic steps...

1. The Ascendant: first impression about that side of our personality (the Persona), the way we tend to express it spontaneously and in a natural way, how we appear to others (for example, emotionally, for a Moon chart).

2. The Descendant: what type of partner we are, related to that specific archetype, how we relate emotionally (Moon), mentally (Mercury), in love (Venus) etc. What partner we prefer in that specific interaction. And finally, what partner we tend to attract on the level described by that specific Persona.

3. The Midheaven: the best expression of that archetype, what we can achieve when we fully express that archetype, the “vocation” and “final accomplishment” of that archetype within ourselves. The “fate” of that planetary energy. How important is that archetype for us. Here we have clues about the importance of that planetary energy within ourselves, on the MC/IC axis. How we can “blossom”, how we are when we “blossom”, in terms of that archetype. From my personal comparisons, I’ve noticed when a planet/archetype is important for that person, there are significant planets/asteroids in the 4th house or on IC in that specific Persona chart. That planetary energy is a “matter of the heart” for that person, touches his/her core.

4. NN/SN: what we already master, related to that archetype, and what we need to develop within ourselves in order to fully express that planet. Also, clues about important events related to that planet.

And so on———>…

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