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Issues in Online Chart Advice
January 2, 2020 at 17:28 (UT/GMT)

Issues in Online Chart Advice
I´ve mentioned this before, but I want to talk about it more. Here are my issues in reading people´s chart here:
1) A certain chart placement can mean a number of different things. It´s hard to say anything about a chart without at least speaking with the person in-depth in the chart. Now, I know that part of the fun of astrology is that people want to see you pull a rabbit out of a hat, that is guess what happened or what will happen. Unfortunately that is difficult to do, especially if you can´t talk to the person about their life and get feed-back.
2) A lot of people want astrology to bring some meaning and order to their lives. If you create a narrative for them, they are happy. The problem is that the narrative an astrologer, especially one who knows nothing about you, can create a bad narrative for you, one that is not appropriate for you or has really nothing to do with you. Of course, the more vulnerable or gullible you happen to be in a given moment, the more susceptible are you to sometimes inappropriate advice.
So take my advice with a grain of salt. I usually try to say that when giving advice, but sometimes forget, depending on my mood. Take any advice you get on here from anybody with a grain of salt and by that I mean, don´t take it too much to heart. Keep this in mind. People who give astrological advice are assuming a position of power, knowingly or unknowingly. Don´t give them your power.
For that reason, you will see that there are periods where I hesitate to give any advice at all and others where I give it. I am especially shy when I see something "bad" in a chart. I am always afraid that if I mention it, I might create anxiety or even create the malady that I believe the chart portrays.
1) A certain chart placement can mean a number of different things. It´s hard to say anything about a chart without at least speaking with the person in-depth in the chart. Now, I know that part of the fun of astrology is that people want to see you pull a rabbit out of a hat, that is guess what happened or what will happen. Unfortunately that is difficult to do, especially if you can´t talk to the person about their life and get feed-back.
2) A lot of people want astrology to bring some meaning and order to their lives. If you create a narrative for them, they are happy. The problem is that the narrative an astrologer, especially one who knows nothing about you, can create a bad narrative for you, one that is not appropriate for you or has really nothing to do with you. Of course, the more vulnerable or gullible you happen to be in a given moment, the more susceptible are you to sometimes inappropriate advice.
So take my advice with a grain of salt. I usually try to say that when giving advice, but sometimes forget, depending on my mood. Take any advice you get on here from anybody with a grain of salt and by that I mean, don´t take it too much to heart. Keep this in mind. People who give astrological advice are assuming a position of power, knowingly or unknowingly. Don´t give them your power.
For that reason, you will see that there are periods where I hesitate to give any advice at all and others where I give it. I am especially shy when I see something "bad" in a chart. I am always afraid that if I mention it, I might create anxiety or even create the malady that I believe the chart portrays.

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January 4, 2020 at 02:10


January 4, 2020 at 02:05

This! I like to think of this in terms of tendencies/predispositions.
Tough thing to talk about, but my daughter had Saturn in the 4th house. I cringed when I saw that, as fourth house Saturn has been associated with difficult, overbearing mothers.. She also has Saturn square the ascendant.
My own 4th house has some ugly stuff (moon and Pluto both there, with Pluto in Scorpio). Needless to say, things in my childhood were ugly, and I´ve vowed never to be that kind of parent. Rosie´s 4th house Saturn makes me aware that I could have these tendencies--I´m not gonna lie, I can be very short-fused. Her 4th house Saturn makes me aware she has more suseptibility toward having a difficult childhood, so I´m working on my own issues so that doesn´t play out for her.


January 3, 2020 at 21:19

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Feedback from a client should be truthful as well. If an interpretation was off and incorrect, we want to know that and improve next time. However, sometimes clients could lie, out of shame or privacy protection, about actual correct interpretation saying it´s wrong. Sometimes, astrologers can be tempted to lie as well, especially if a question is sort of wishful thinking and negative answer makes it even worse. Interpretation in astrology is always only relatively true. Many factors goes in an equation.

January 3, 2020 at 20:46

Probably I have more than 3. My chart is full of bumpy conjunctions and I have a huge T-square right in the middle, whose interpretation I have yet to read about and figure it out.
But I found out about my T-Square here. @Fishscales pointed it to me and offered his view in regard to it.
I didn´t feel depressed. I know myself and my conflicting energies so it was just the revelation there´s an astrological pattern written in my chart which describes?/explains? it.
I agree these bad vibes help us grow. "Us" who wish to work on themselves.
If that very bad aspect indicates just those conflicting energies, it´s fine and it´s of real help to have an astrologer highlight that and offer some explanations.
Everything can be fixed in the realm of emotions and psychology, as long as we talk about intelligent, cultivated people who are willing to work on themselves.
Now that´s another category of events, more severe and solid than emotions that, as a freshman, I´m not sure astrology can point it out with accuracy.
Because if astrology is about PREDISPOSITIONS and we have our free will (a perspective I personally like), can it really point for sure than someone will die young? Or at a certain age? That a woman is barren? That someone will never marry? That someone will NEVER be happy in his/her relations?
These are verdicts, not predispositions...
And, in relate to the sickness kind of bad...or rapes...if astrology can predict you have a predisposition (or you will? ) to be raped or you are prone to be attacked or suffer an accident, isn´t it a real gift to warn the person/their parents so as to be more cautious?

January 3, 2020 at 20:05

I´m starting to look at my hard aspects and look at how far I´ve come, and that gives me a sense of hope. Venus square moon has gotten easier for me to deal with. Sun square Saturn has been a real tough one for me though, but I´m determined to make progress. To me, the thought of anything being lifelong and permanent is unacceptable. Whether something can truly be overcome or not, I don´t know, but it feels good to allow myself to believe so.
Editing to note that I did not find out about my hard aspects here--no one here gave me doom and gloom. I found out about them on my own and doing some research.

January 3, 2020 at 19:54

Not gonna lie, I´m only human, and hearing something negative at first might sting a little (which is why people hesitate to give feedback to others in the first place), but overall, I believe when someone is asking for truth, truth is what´s best.
Now for me to give negative feedback, though (I don´t give much feedback on charts here, since I´m still learning, but I will give moral support in hard times), might be more of a challenge, so I get where the OP is coming from in being hesitant to give feedback about bad aspects.

January 3, 2020 at 19:46


January 3, 2020 at 19:29


Kidding, I totaly agree with all that, reality does take hold, and if its multiple meanings how we meant to know which one to predict.
Its always easier to read your own chart than someone elses too
The Planetary energies can play out in different ways and in the same positions, like a pieces on a chessboard can play out differently from there set position, which is why talking to the person (querent) first to find out how there life is flowing, makes it much easier to see what lies ahead astrologically.
Even though with non serious readings I do like to do a mary poppins and pull it all out the bag lol


January 3, 2020 at 16:21

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Yes, I agree. Practice discernment when others give "astrological advice", which imo isn´t always knowledge based.


January 3, 2020 at 08:06

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According to my experience, using astrology we can only see what eventual task is in front of us and what dominant mind/action pattern is associated with it.
On our path to evolution (which is our only destiny) we receive tasks and tools from Universe and our free will is to choose the way.
"Good" or "bad" path in fulfilling those tasks is our choice but outcome is always the same - evolution.
We grow equally trough suffering, that can sometimes be physicaly fatal if resistance gets too high (if we chose "bad" path or deny our path), and trough surrending and acceptance - more pleasent way - "good path".
So, when we talk about good or bad, we can just talk about the way, since wahtever you do you´ll grow (even if that sometimes doesn´t look like that since we have no abbility to judge that).
Astrologers have a great responsibility because they, troughout suggestions, are directly messing up with higher plans.
To protect ourselves, as astrologers and persons (from higher force we´re mesing up with) we should avoid giving scenarios, keep reports short and open, stick to main, general elements and of course mention that our report is just one tinny little frame in great masterpiece called life and can easilly mean nothing.

January 3, 2020 at 03:58


January 3, 2020 at 03:49


January 3, 2020 at 01:58

It depends on the willpower and level of evolution of the person involved...
To a certain degree, I think it also depends on the aspect...some are easier to overcome than others..
Understanding your hard aspects and having conscious awareness of how you manifest them in your everyday life is a good place to start...
Whether you can completely defeat a hard aspect, I don´t know... But I do think you can mitigate it with enough will, effort, and discipline.

January 2, 2020 at 23:32

This is a BIG question. It occupies a lot of my thought these days.

January 2, 2020 at 23:16

I am always reminded of Nietzsche´s statement, "That which doesn´t kill you makes you stronger." It sounds good and it´s sometimes true, but then we have to remember that Nietzsche himself ended his days sick and mentally ill. It didn´t kill him (well, it did in the end), but it certainly didn´t make him stronger.

January 2, 2020 at 20:30

I think that people are lost (there is a difference between media self-image representations, and how we should be, and what it allows us to be). Too much things are wrong... keeing us away from what we are...
Everyone tries to catch something that brings a little light and faith in dark times to be able to continue along the way of life despite the ordeals they have to face...
So, give me a bag (or two) of salt, please, because grains aren´t enough... and thank you for advice





January 2, 2020 at 19:10

A bad transit, bringing a predispozition for negative outcomes?
But transits aside...what does bad mean in a birth chart?
Are there bad aspects that cannot be overcome by willpower and personal evolution?
Like in the T-square descriptions...you know it´s bad to have one, as it brings issues and struggles, but the optimistic astrologers point out it can be a ladder for evolution and a mark of powerful people, as they were somehow pushed to actively work on those issues/conflicting energies...
Is this just New Age Astrology optimism or somehow, we can fix even the hard aspects? Or, if not fixed entirely, maybe make them more bearable? ...


January 2, 2020 at 18:40

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I am not afraid to say negative things I see. Their reaction is their problem. I am doing more than they deserve from a stranger.

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