Do you think you´re an old soul?

September 17, 2023 at 16:06 (UT/GMT)
(Capricorn) tintin92
Do you think you´re an old soul?
I have been reading various topics about old souls and karmic lives. so far, i figured having a balsamic moon and North nodes that are direct means you´re an old soul. but is this true? any other determinants for old souls?

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September 22, 2023 at 16:51
(Taurus) Bearies » tintin92
My brother is a Capricorn.
outside of that as in outside I only know a close friend from school times was a Capricorn moon.
I´m not too sure of others because I keep astrology hush hush outside.

Capricorns are goats :46:
there´s no shade coming from me all cause I said they can be cold at times😄
September 22, 2023 at 08:46
(Capricorn) tintin92 » ChironianSun
"According to what I see, maybe you still feel the Chiron quincunx even with 4º orb. And you also have a lot of Yin energy in your chart. Did you learn about it? Maybe you need to heal it and to balance it with the Yang energy."

This is a new piece of info. How do I have a lot of Yin energy? can it be healed? because as far as i know, many told me Chiron can´t be healed completely, but rather be tamed and ameliorated a bit. But the Yin energy is completely new to me. :4:
September 22, 2023 at 08:43
(Capricorn) tintin92 » lilnevermind
Yet it´s rather a very vague topic! no one has answers
September 21, 2023 at 22:46
HellenisticAstro » HellenisticAstro
Yep wefrgetrq2, you need to look at the aspects table on the bottom of the wheel.

Like this article wrote: [[ The Nodes are always in retrograde motion 90% of the time. They move in the direction opposite to the direction travelled by the Sun/Moon. Their speed can change, they get slower or faster, but they are always retrograde.

But for about 10% of us, the Nodes will be direct in the birth chart. Direct Nodes are nodes are moving the same direction as the Sun/Moon. ]]

The Nodes North and South always travel the opposite direction of the Sun and Moon, hence 90% of the time the Nodes are Retrograde.
Only 10% of the time when the Nodes travel Direct which it spin the same direction as the Sun and Moon.

If your North Node is Direct, it will has a letter (d) next to it like this:
If not then your North Node is Retrograde just like the majority 90% of the time.
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September 21, 2023 at 22:46
ChironianSun » Move-37
I can imagine... Anyway I think that (in case you feel bad if you can´t help her) sometimes we just need to feel understood which I can see you do.... So what you do already helps, I´m sure :1:

I imagine it´s also a "lesson" for you, to be able to be by her side without being affected energetically. Quite a challenge for your path.

I wish you all the best for both of you, Move-37 :68:
September 21, 2023 at 22:21
ChironianSun » tintin92
Always a pleasure :1:

Thank you tintin92, but please don´t be sorry for this because as a soul I chose to be the (human) daughter of a man that died in an accident. That´s okay, everything was perfect as it was. I appreciate your empathy :1:

"and no answers"
Maybe because you´re looking for the "why" instead of "what for". Change the question and I am sure you´ll find the answers.

"I have a lot of emotions piled up for almost anything, which i don´t like"
According to what I see, maybe you still feel the Chiron quincunx even with 4º orb. And you also have a lot of Yin energy in your chart. Did you learn about it? Maybe you need to heal it and to balance it with the Yang energy.

September 21, 2023 at 19:39
(Sagittarius) lilnevermind
interesting topic! I think it´s important to see NN aspects with planets
September 21, 2023 at 19:37
(Capricorn) tintin92 » wefrgetrq2
Check astrodient website and enter your info there. That´s the only website that shows the direction of NN. on this website, NN is written without direct or retrograde for everyone.

there is a table with the planets and their degrees next to the chart. that shows it. If there is no d next to the NN, then yours is probably retrograde.
September 21, 2023 at 13:14
(Cancer) wefrgetrq2
don´t really have a balsamic moon but I do have north node NOT SHOWING retrograde OR direct, what does this mean?

otherwise id have consider my soul to have been around for a while.
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September 21, 2023 at 07:49
(Aquarius) Move-37 » ChironianSun
It is challenging to be her husband, that´s for sure...
September 20, 2023 at 21:29
(Capricorn) tintin92 » Ellilunaa
14 earth signs for you and 17 for me :61: i think you and i will meet on the next cycle :75: we just need signs to find each other :34:
September 20, 2023 at 21:18
(Capricorn) tintin92 » ChironianSun
Thank you for your insights :6:

Sorry to hear about your father. Personally, i have had my fair share of unfair mishaps in this world, and that made me question a lot and look for answers. Answers I could never find. Too many WHYs and no answers. Just assumptions and this so-called old soul is one of them. Maybe an unknown answer to calm this erratic brain of mine. I was even wondering if I could find proof for being an old soul, then what? i got my answer this time lol

About your question. I´m very emotional to the point that it´s hurtful sometimes. Despite too many Caps in my chart, i have a lot of emotions piled up for almost anything, which i don´t like :4:
September 20, 2023 at 20:36
(Capricorn) Ellilunaa » tintin92
That’s basically what it is, as funny as it sounds lool. Our souls are used again and again so we can reincarnate back into earth , learn our karmic lessons and experience life. Until we reach a certain point, with our higher self I guess.

I think I’m almost there ….. like very near.. :48:

Considering the huge amount of Earth I have in my chart, I guess I’m just Mother Earth. Heh
September 20, 2023 at 20:09
(Cancer) tragicdolly
i think my soul is quite young. but i’m ready for the next plane of existence, off of this world, after i pass lol
September 20, 2023 at 17:02
ChironianSun » Move-37
Wait, sorry ! Now I see the other two! Yes, I think I got lost because it´s like one "connects" with the other. Oh wow...

So good she has someone on her side that understands her... Because this chart must be challenging indeed... My best wishes for her path :1: and for yours too.

September 20, 2023 at 16:59
ChironianSun » tomdos
Thank you for taking the time to write all this, tomdos. Of course I wasn´t referring to "buddhism from Wikipedia" :4: nor was I saying that it doesn´t talk about suffering or pain. But I´m not here to exhibit knowledge unless I find it really necessary, so don´t worry because it´s not an offence :68:

I may agree with some of the things you mention while others I don´t, but it´s been an interesting reading anyway so I appreciate your energy and dedication in it to explain it in the clearest way possible. It´s always positive to read others.

Hope you are having a good day :1:
September 20, 2023 at 16:42
ChironianSun » tintin92
Thank you for sharing, tintin92 :68:

But you don´t need to know this to be aligned with your intuition or to experience the bliss. Every person will share a different perspective on this, but mine is that your soul chose those "difficult" experiences to learn and evolve... And this happens in all the "levels" ("new" and "old").

I am not sure if I told you this before. My dad suddenly died when I was 3 in an "unfair" situation. Let´s say I am an old soul... And then what? It doesn´t change all the derivated lessons I had to live after that.

What I try to say is that maybe, just maybe, you´re taking an "spiritual concept" to calm your mind, but you don´t really need this. It is better to work on your wounds/mental patterns and your mind will not need "external concepts" like this to feel bliss.

The dejavus... That is connection. We all can connect with each other. But maybe astrology can explain it. I see that your Mercury and Moon are in the 12th house. Mercury there has "access" to "other information" for sure. It´s interesting because it is not aspected by another planet, only Mars (conjunction). Neptune conjuncts Sun, being the regent of the 3rd house (mind). Almost all the planets are in the hemisphere that is about "your inner world".

I see you are an open minded person, I see your answers when I write you and the energy you emit. And you are always open to know and to accept new ideas about this. It´s obvious, at least for me, that you look for the "other side" of human life. So if I can suggest this... Keep walking on this direction, BUT trust on yourself otherwise it will not work :1:

You have a lot of energy in Capricorn with the Moon in the ASC. Are you an emotional constructor? :1:
September 20, 2023 at 15:45
(Capricorn) tintin92 » Bearies
:61: :61: :61:

Tell me, how many caps did you have in your life? anyone close maybe? would like to hear your story. I had 3 Capricorn friends when i was at school. we hated each other for real, mostly because we were all bookworms and rivals.
September 20, 2023 at 08:42
(Aquarius) Move-37 » ChironianSun
2 yods? Four!

Chiron apex, Rahu apex, Saturn apex and Lilith apex.

Working on wounds, desires, duty and fate. Yes, she´s at the end of her Path.
September 19, 2023 at 22:09
(Taurus) Bearies » tintin92
No bias I can make a list of positive attributes of the zodiac sign Capricorn.
I can also make a list of the negative attributes of Aries(MyDominant)

I was agreeing with some posts on this topic that Capricorn is linked to an old soul aswell as Pisces but Capricorn can be c-old also :13:

I have my front three sun, moon and ascendant in horns too :61: :3:
September 19, 2023 at 19:48
(Gemini) Janko33
Good evening everyone. I did thinked about this topic,did read everyone opinion,karma,souls. I told i thinked that i m old soul,because i understanded past in some way,like from history and again from everything i have been saw or felt...whatever... but somehow made me think,it will be more easy if its possible know you are old soul and its maybe end of it. Its end,so whatever.
But,what if maybe, i say again mayne,i m newborn soul,me or anyone,
And we start something a cycle of karmas souls and life of someone in far future... i wouldnt want bring someone making pay my mistakes... maybe its interesting...
September 19, 2023 at 12:53
(Leo) tomdos » ChironianSun
Hi, it is impossible to put this into words without causing more confusion. Which is probably about to happen and I am sorry for that.

You talk about mind and human experience. Well, that is maybe the problem. Soul – the essence, is not human. Human is a form, one of many, tied to a certain realm of existence and quality. Upon gaining enough experience, the essence needs more adequate manifestation, not human one. It is simply not bearable anymore. Imagine it be too tight or heavy, or dark. It is too painful, inadequate. In eastern techings, human world is just one of many planes of existence, and it is a hellish plane. It is hell, albeit the „lightest“ one. The higher the quality of the realm (or a plane of exsitence), the lighter and more subtle the quality and vice versa.

So, we could say that evolution and growth is transformation of the raw and heavy material into an essence, ultimately the light. You can see it in nature, too. Minerals becoming vegetation and vegetation becoming fauna. Extremely slowly developing immaterial consciousness out of pure rock.

As for humans - for a „young human“, the world is a beautiful place full of joy and hope and opportunities. Pain and disappointment is temporary and easily overcome and forgotten. For an „old human soul“, which has seen it all many thousand times and knows how it always ends, it is truly a hell, a suffering. And such an individual is looking for an exit, or a solution for the discrepancy between inner and outer world.

"Our purpose here is to align more and more with our true essence, the energy of our soul which is the energy of the Universe. If that energy is bliss, joy and love, old souls will be very close or already living in that frequency."

Yes, nicely said. But WHAT are you alligning with the essence, then? I tell you what: your form. Your body and and all the energies of your being that are not yet like the true essence (the light). In fact, the body – the crystalized karma – is to be transformed INTO the essence (or in other words - dissolved). That is the point of straight spiritual path. It is something so hard it is almost unattainable with human body. So what we as beings generally do, we very slowly (and unconsciously) increase the quality of our body and mind energies, which means making them lighter and more subtle, more essence-like. We do it so slowly, life by life, until the treshold is reached where the processed and subtle energies of our „being“ cannot stand the current environment anymore, and are (by the law of attraction) attracted into a more adequate environment (plane of existence) to manifest in and continue the process of alligning, as you called it. This usually happens via death.

Human form is just one of many on the way. So usually the work is not finished here, very seldom it is. The „alligning“ does not end here, human rarely fully lives bliss and joy permanently with every cell of the body (because THAT is what should be attained).

To a truly experienced human this world feels very painful simply because they do not belong here anymore. The energies of human shell and the environment block expiriencing higher quality inner life, the bliss and joy and peace you speak of, unless THEY are processed and transformed into very it.

Such individuals have learned their lesson on a conscious level and internally are too subtle with all the experience to manage to stay here longer. The energies do not match. As I pointed out: death feels like the only deliverance, unless ways to freedom and relief are found via some form of spiritual path, which brings understanding of what is actually going on. Not only that. Good spiritual teachings point the WAY OUT of the game (samsara), not just one playing field (be it human world, hell or heaven). In your words: a way to allign completely, so there is nothing left. It almost seems to be a rule that even the most experienced individuals are born with obscured mind and need to go through a phase of intense and painful learning, discovering and transformation. Then they can live their life in peace and harmony. And even become teachers. Until they die and do not come back. There is noone to come back and nothing to come back to.

As for buddhism, suffering is at the very core of buddhist teaching. If you know some buddhism without the teaching about suffering, then – no offence please – you dont know much about buddhism.
Buddhist teaching about suffering are the best psychological and metaphysical truths. They are so pure they only appeal to „old souls“. Because of that buddhists have often been misunderstood as pesimists. Of course, as with any other spiritual techings, the core teaching has always been for those few „old and ready“, but the exotheric form has become a religion for the masses, which in this case probably often neglect even the very basic essence - the truths about suffering.

The soul is always at peace. Yours, mine, Hitlers, Popes. That does not mean that we as beings do not permanently suffer through inner conflicts, which then define our lives and actions. 24/7.

An „old soul“ individuals suffer even MORE so, because they are AWARE of the conflict, they cannot run away from experiencing it. That makes it much more painful, because it is conscious and always here. And at the same time, they can sense the peace beyond the endless conflict. So they look for the way.

This is what buddhism is very well aware of and explains it as a part of the suffering. BUddhism is a way to a permanent peace. In order to do that, suffering must be stopped. To stop suffering, one needs to realize and admit what suffering is, and that THEY themselves are the source of it. That even what they call "joy" can often be a source of suffering. And that attaining true peace means understanding what suffering is, where it comes from and how it can be stopped. Then true peace is not only attainable, but also permanent and unbreakable, no matter what horrors are going on the "outside".

Buddhisms is in fact the most practical psychology, more advanced and developed 2000 years ago than nowadays. It is a way to a happy life. But it is not free. It requiers a work. A work that also happens to be a perfect way of alligning with the essence, as you mentioned. But it is not a buddhism from wikipedia nor sadly from many modern buddhist "schools". But I believe that is something that an honest searching soul will easily find out.
September 19, 2023 at 11:09
(Capricorn) tintin92 » Move-37
I don´t have yods :4: so i must be quite young :117:
September 19, 2023 at 11:06
(Capricorn) tintin92 » Bearies
Come on :75:

what is bias towards Capricorns? I am a triple cap! but when you see me, i´m very warm and kind and not cold :4: My south node is in cancer, making me quite emotional about those around me. this cold perception is not true for everyone :3:
September 19, 2023 at 11:03
(Capricorn) tintin92 » ChironianSun

good question! what´s the use to know this?

I´m just saying this based on my own experience. if we figure that we are INDEED old souls, maybe we can have a little peace of mind. Maybe a little explanation for the misfortunes or the things that happened to us. simply the reason why certain things happened.

Like the weirdest thing ever happened to me a few days ago. I have lucid dreams every once in a while. I had a dream involving someone and it was life-threaning. few days later, the very same person ended up in a coma. I have Dejavus too a lot. Why do i have such things? what´s the use? or like my brain can travel to the next 10 years, depicting scenarios( that´s more like daydreaming but yeah). and, last but not least, i feel different :4:
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