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Empty 4th, 5th, and 7th houses
May 16, 2019 at 19:41 (UT/GMT)

Empty 4th, 5th, and 7th houses
I´m 24, and I have never expressed any desire for either having any type of romantic relationship or having a family. I´m very much a loner, and my Gemini moon contents itself through conversation with lofty ideas & concepts & studies more so than connection with people. Don´t get me wrong- I experience the pain of being an outsider on a deep level & wonder what it would be like to actually connect with anyone on any real level at times, yet most days I revel in my distance & my differences from others.
I was wondering if this made sense in the context of empty 4th, 5th, and 7th houses?
I was wondering if this made sense in the context of empty 4th, 5th, and 7th houses?


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May 20, 2019 at 17:31

An empty 7th, 5th, or 4th house doesn´t really mean that you are destined to be alone..don´t forget about the planets that transit these houses, as well as the planets from another person´s chart that you meet, falling into these houses; essentially ´activating´ them. I agree with goldenlion32; your soul´s main focus just won´t be on empty house issues in this lifetime.

May 20, 2019 at 15:39

I think my Gemini moon makes me acutely aware of the tension between the Scorpio and Capricorn energies, too; the biggest thing I feel with a Gemini moon is a sense of restlessness. I always, always need to be learning something and engaging with new ideas to be content. I very rarely form any beliefs or truly deep attachment; however detached I am from almost everything I study though, I need contact with thoughts, words, ideas, theories, concepts, etc. I also need to dwell in conflict, whether within myself or with my ideas or with something external (although I think that stems from Mercury in Libra for me~ a good way to describe that is that I am quite capable of arguing for things I even disagree with, just to feel what it would be like to see the world through the other side´s lens & because I have a weird love/hate relationship with conflict itself). All of this is to say that when I think of Gemini, given my own experience & my knowledge of 2 close friends with a lot of Gemini, I think we have an unusually high need for contact and communication (in whatever form that takes). Simultaneously, we have Duality etched deep in our beings; naturally, this leads us to fantasize that we have no such need (and perhaps to even believe it to be true), especially because we also love being a little detached.
And lastly, that´s amazing that you are a fan of Chris Brennan, too! He is brilliant. I´ll check out the other astrologer, too; Hellenistic astrology is my favorite so far, yet I aspire to learn about the other traditions, as well. (I very much like your speculation that perhaps both schools of thought are right, too :) ).

May 20, 2019 at 15:06


May 18, 2019 at 18:48


May 18, 2019 at 18:21

Also, your Ascendant is in Capricorn and from what I understand, Capricorns don´t really experience a "mushy" or overly romantic type of love. Your Venus is also trine Neptune in Capricorn at the 20th degree which stands for Scorpio energy. Not everyone believes in the degree theory, but I do, so for what it´s worth- to me it looks like you have that stress between having this planet in Capricorn but at a degree of Scorpio, and Scorpio craves deep connection. Regarding Neptune from the book Spiritual Astrology it "depicts the self-defeating and confusing patterns where your expectations are the highest and disappointments are the most intense." This could be why you´re not feeling so "take it or leave it" about relationships and might have discord.
Also, Neptune is conjunct Uranus in Capricorn at the 22nd degree, a Capricorn degree (again, if you go for that sort of thing). So, Uranus is your independence being conjoined with a planet with this energy of confusion around it- Capricorn energy vs Scorpio. Saturn rules Capricorn and with so much energy from Capricorn in your first house (who you are)between planets and the 22nd degree, I think things like relationships could come at a delay in your life.
Hopefully this makes some sense, if you don´t agree I totally understand. I see that you respect classical astrology which doesn´t use degrees. I do too and I´m actually studying two astrologers now that have completely opposite views. I study Chris Brennan´s work, who seems to be the King of bringing back Hellenistic astrology, and Nikola Stojanovic who would throw classical out the window and uses Placidus. I feel like both of them have compelling teachings and maybe they´re both right.

May 18, 2019 at 06:49

share salient pointwise ground feedbacks how true-insightful :
asc lord sat over 3rd, good for initiative and progress;
*retro sat towards acq opp mars, stress-struggle in family-finances-health;
sat acq reformist, innovative, tech-mech-entrepreneurial aptitudes;
earnings in distant lands; observe fast sat evenings;
moon gemini analytical but confused at decision making;
*moon lord 7th negating to 6th,
negating aptitude for relationship/not as keen;
moon 6th diplomatic approach; aptitude for finance, music;
jup scorpio trine elevated aspect cancer 7th,
protective-supportive of marriage;
**jup now transit sag 12th opp moon lord 7th for relationship
scope for relationship months ahead;
jup coming 4-5m retro towards venus 11th for friendships,
trine cancer 7th for marriage;
jup scorpio trine elevated aspect cancer 7th,
protective-supportive of marriage;
*ketu separative SNode over taurus 5th,
detachment from luck-edu-romance-children-position;
love of food and comforts, extra stubborn;
pain-injury-surgery throat-teeth-heart-stomach etc;
*Sat-ketu separative SNode coming 1.5yr transit cap asc,
pain-injury-surgery head-knees etc to care;
prayers to Mother Goddess,
offer red flowers at alter at home fri evenings;
sat retro these 4-5m opp moon,
health-employment under much stress;
*scorpio 11th inimical-malefic for cap asc,
stress-delays in income-gains-friendships-relationship;
*mars aspect own scorpio protective of income-gains
but not good for health of friends/friendships;
jup-venus-rahu NNode scorpio 11th, research-occult-acting aptitudes,
gains from forensic sciences, pharmacy, anesthetics, etc;
venus lord 5th over 11th, gains from education-speculation-arts;
venus lord 10th for career over 11th for gains;
*rahu debilated darkpit scorpio, not to indulge much into the occult;
wear brown hessonite over pendant;
**rahu 11th gains from foreigners/other races;
rahu now transit cancer 7th for foriegn relationships, trine rahu scorpio;
*sun-jup-venus-rahu inimical scorpio, toxic health issues,
urological-liver-kidney-heart-stomach-ears etc etc;
mars leo 8th, accident prone, heart-stomach-urological inflammations;
able to cope with tough challenges;
**mer lord 9th for luck over libra 10th for career, communications, public
relations, law-justice-objectivity-legal drafting etc;
mer lord 6th, calling for extra efforts;
may be international forensic lawyer;
**hope jup transit opp moon, and retro towards scorpio-venus 11th
helps these months for income-gains-relationship though under stress-delay;
prayers to saint of faith, offer yellow flowers tues evenings;
*sat-moon lords 1/7 over pisces-gemini square, lords jup-mer enemies,
challenge/conflict in marriage relationship;
**moon gemini compatible with moons gemini, taurus, leo, virgo, libra;
do promptly ack, and share feedbacks, wishing well,
kshantaram

May 17, 2019 at 15:11


May 17, 2019 at 12:49


May 17, 2019 at 12:47

Empty houses don´t mean you won´t have romance, sex, or relationships. It´s just saying your focus isn´t entirely on the family, children, and relationships. You may have mastered this before in past life.

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