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August 18, 2021 at 17:04 (UT/GMT)

part of fortune
Hello everyone my name is Weydevu I´m new to this forum but not new to this website. I´m 73 years old and I´ve been in and out of astrology for years. My question is what makes the part of fortune moves so fast?
my sun is in cancer, my moon is in Libra and my rising is in Gemini my MC is in Pisces and my part of fortune is in Aires.
When I try to plot my POF one second it´s in Cancer and the next second it´s in Libra how is that possible?
I´m writing this from the library so it will take some time to respond back thank you.
my sun is in cancer, my moon is in Libra and my rising is in Gemini my MC is in Pisces and my part of fortune is in Aires.
When I try to plot my POF one second it´s in Cancer and the next second it´s in Libra how is that possible?
I´m writing this from the library so it will take some time to respond back thank you.


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September 11, 2021 at 16:38

After the "jump" it will continue to move smoothly til the Sun goes down. When the night comes, in that very moment, the formulae switches again, so it "jumps" again.

September 11, 2021 at 14:55


September 4, 2021 at 17:26

For example, if you are following the plotting of POF during a day, advancing minute after minute, you´ll see that "jump" happening when the night comes. At the very moment the Sun goes away at the horizon the POF starts to be calculated with it´s reversed formulae (so it´ll "jump" a distance equal to the gap between the luminaries, which can be several signs away).

September 4, 2021 at 13:38


August 23, 2021 at 00:30

The formula for a night chart is the distance (going in Zodiacal order, that is to say counter-clockwise) from the Moon to the Sun. You then take that distance and measure from the Ascendant.
The reason why another program might place your Lot of Fortune (or Part of Fortune) in another sign is because Modern Astrology calculates the Lot of Fortune the same way for both day and night charts. The Lot of Fortune is one of the 7 Hermetic Lots and, as such, is one of the oldest (probably the oldest) and most used Lot in Astrology. Since the beginnings of Western Astrology in the Hellenic Empire, that is to say for over 2000 years the Lot of Fortune has been calculated differently depending on whether the chart is nocturnal or diurnal.
This habit of calculating the Lot of Fortune in the same way for all probably started with Alan Leo, who revolutionized (read, Fucked up) astrology and threw stuff out that he didn´t understand (in his words, he wanted to "simplify" astrology). His background was as a salesman of confections and he succeeded in selling his version of astrology to the Theosophists who were an important influence upon what would later become known as "The New Age"..

August 22, 2021 at 23:40

August 22, 2021 at 23:13

They are shown as Whole Signs and the number variable for the "House" is shown as "0.00°"... because it is in Whole Sign format...

August 22, 2021 at 22:12


August 22, 2021 at 21:32
ASTR
SEEK Admin,
Petr9
Hello Weydevu
most of "Parts/Lots" (Fortune or anything) are calculated as:
ASC + Significator - Trigger
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/a…
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(Significator and Trigger are mostly the planets ... no matter the diurnal or nocturnal birth)
= planets don´t move very fast within 1 minute
=> most of lots/parts (including part of fortune) move according to the speed of ASC
(= 1°degree/4-5 minutes)
> When I try to plot my POF one second it´s in Cancer and the next second it´s in Libra how is that possible?
---
this is strange. can you provide more details - where have you seen this? (was it on astro-seek? ... or somewhere else?)


most of "Parts/Lots" (Fortune or anything) are calculated as:
ASC + Significator - Trigger
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/a…
---
(Significator and Trigger are mostly the planets ... no matter the diurnal or nocturnal birth)
= planets don´t move very fast within 1 minute
=> most of lots/parts (including part of fortune) move according to the speed of ASC
(= 1°degree/4-5 minutes)
> When I try to plot my POF one second it´s in Cancer and the next second it´s in Libra how is that possible?
---
this is strange. can you provide more details - where have you seen this? (was it on astro-seek? ... or somewhere else?)


August 22, 2021 at 08:42

I didn´t know you can do Night pars too on AS... Gotta look that up.

August 21, 2021 at 22:17

Very different in Night versus Day Charts!


August 20, 2021 at 18:48


August 20, 2021 at 15:23

Part of Fortune is a mathematical combo of Sun, Moon and ASC - and you can´t plot it separately because it is the sum of those parts. Why are you trying to move it anyway? I don´t understand.

August 20, 2021 at 08:59



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