Should I move abroad? Where?

July 4, 2021 at 15:30 (UT/GMT)
(Aquarius) Anushka42
Should I move abroad? Where?
Hi! I wanted to have some opinions on the opportunity of moving abroad. I have always lived in Italy, but it´s not my place. When I was younger I found it very difficult to make friends at schools or elsewhere I think for a cultural reason, or difference of character. Last years I found sone superficial groups (political groups mostly) to hang out with, but it has its limits, it´s not something that fulfills me. I´ve been blocked so many years (7 years) with university studies, at the end of which I got a bachelor degree in Law. But it´s not my passion, it was a wrong path. Briefly, the situation here is that I haven´t found a job yet, I don´t have friends (I mean real friends), I still don´t know what I´m good at,and I really struggle to fit and be happy with this social enviroment. I don´t have a driving license too. So I have to start from zero. Thus, I´ve been thinking many times about moving abroad. The questions are finding a decent job and succeeding in knowing new people, stepping out of the comfort zone. Do you think I could find an accettable job abroad? Would I feel better and more stimulated?
And where, in which countries do you think I could live a good life? Also seeing at my natal chart.

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July 8, 2021 at 22:43
(Capricorn) Datta108 » Anushka42
Namaste, imo I dont think this is the best time to move even though I think you will no matter what is said here.
To begin with, your Jupiter Maha dasa is ending in a few months bringing the chart under "Dasa chidram", which usually brings upheaval and confusion and major changes in life. The next dasa is Saturn dasa which shouldn´t be that tough overall since for your Rising sign Saturn is a favorable planet,but he is combust being conjuct the Sun so that tells me the initial 3 years of Saturn dasa combined with difficult transits of Saturn and Jupiter make the next several years very challenging ,frustrating and problematic.
Next spring will start the major changes for you
as your Saturn dasa commences plus Jupiter enters Pisces your 10th house from moon in April which is traditionally considered inauspicious (loss of job,change of job that is not what is hoped for, problems with bosses,unwanted work etc..) and Rahu and Ketu changes signs besides Saturn entering Aquarius for a couple of months before he returns to Capricorn.
(Major changes for many next spring but for you even more!!) Location wise I would choose a place that I understand it´s language to make things easier, maybe UK.
Blessings 🙏☀️
July 8, 2021 at 20:46
(Aquarius) Anushka42
Ok, I could also set the question in these terms: what states do you think are more similar to my way of being? Where I could feel more mind-liked? Wich countries would fulfill me? Seeing at my natal chary.
But I can also add that I seek order and cleaniness, not messy or chaotic places, still very vivid and warm people, when there is fun and entertainment, simple and casual people, but intelligent.
So, what do you think?
July 5, 2021 at 17:21
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » nutelina
Ok, I´ve seen the graphic and it explains what the lines mean, at astro.
July 5, 2021 at 14:32
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » nutelina
Thank you. I read it, but wgat do these lines mean in astrocartography? What effects can occur if I move in those places?
You are very helpful.
July 5, 2021 at 13:33
(Taurus) nutelina » Anushka42
Ah yes, the MC:

Also known as MC — short for Medium Coeli (meaning "middle of the sky" in Latin), your Midheaven sign represents your public face, determining your career path, goals, achievements, social standing and reputation.

What does your Midheaven sign mean?

If you´ve ever wondered what job would be best for you, your Midheaven sign is a great way to understand what would work best for you in terms of a career. Checking your Midheaven can help you gain greater clarity on your natural-born gifts and talents, as well as what you are best suited to contribute to the world via your professional life.…

Imum Coeli or IC: what it is and its influence on our natal chart

The Bottom of the Sky, also known as Imum Coeli (IC) or Nadir, represents our inherited identity or subjective outlook. This is where our inner self will develop in its deepest roots, geared towards confidence. This identity is partially an inheritance; it is a subconcious image of ourselves developed across previous experience cycles before birth, involving the occurrence of genetic conditions or past lives.…

So your Sun is in the 4th house, your moon in the 10th, that´s a clue.
July 5, 2021 at 12:30
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » nutelina
Thank you. In fact it´s like this that you found here and pasted.

The line of venus was too selective. There are lines but in other things, such as IC, or MC (imum coeli and medium coeli), what do they bring?

Thank you.
July 5, 2021 at 12:14
(Taurus) nutelina » Anushka42
>Jupiter means good things?

Yes, expansion, travel.

>Then, at which lines should I look too?

Maybe Pluto for transformation? Or Venus what you like. Or Mercury if you want to learn more.

>I didn´t like law because it has nothing to do with creativity and humanities, it was definitely not my thing. It was so boring, didn´t match my interests.

You have your moon in Cancer in the 10th house. Sun in the 4th house. Maybe you would be a good teacher to your kids.

North Node in Sagittarius brings the conflict between noble thoughts and simple trivial pearls of wisdom, between worldly
knowledge and sacred values, between intellectual doubts and religious beliefs. These people need to get a real education and find real meaning of various ideas. They need to attain personal spiritual image of the world through long journeys, studying and spiritual pilgrimages. They need to develop confidence in their opinions and move from simple truths to higher knowledge and ethical values.

North Node (True) in the 2nd House - South Node in the 8th House
North Node in the second house brings the conflict between keeping everything on the one hand, and wanting to leave everything outdated and unnecessary behind on the other.
These people need to learn to trust and they have to accept the need for proximity, confidentiality and physical contact. They need to recognize their own value, feel their own importance, and like themselves for who they are. They should develop everything that promises security: material security, inner security and self-confidence.
They should beware of abusing their powerful sexuality.

And read about all those squares with Jupiter:

Mars Square Jupiter (5°08’, Separating)
This aspect causes reckless and extreme reactions. These people are also relatively persistent in their activities and they often do not perceive the impact of their actions on their immediate surroundings. There are two developmental branches of this aspect- one leads to the desire for property, money and power, and the other focuses on idealistic movements and groups. In any case, this aspect also raises the desire for travel and adventure.
Trine- Jupiter Trine Saturn (5°36’, Separating)
This harmoninous aspect is extremely positive - it gives these people good foundation, stability and balance, and enables them to fully develop.
Square- Jupiter Square Uranus (5°00’, Separating)
This aspect causes desire for independence and learning about the mysteries of life. This desire is difficult to control. These people are original and their knowledge encompasses wide areas of life. However, their opinions are often too dogmatic. They love power. They consider themselves exceptional and they expect others to honour them. There may be sudden problems with courts, officials, or with the law.
Square- Jupiter Square Neptune (4°58’, Separating)
This aspect may give people restless soul and a tendency to wander. They do not like to settle down and they do not have clear goals in life. They are able to make big sacrifices for their ideals, but they should be careful not to be naive and not live in their fantasy world. In a better case scenario, these people fanatically push higher universal laws into the existing world order; in the worst case scenario, they work around the secular law with the help of higher universal laws.
Square- Saturn Square Pluto (5°07’, Applying)
This aspect is responsible for the fact that these people do not know what they want and they often try to drastically change their personal life. They have reformist ideas but they lack clear foundations. Their feelings of uniqueness, exclusivity and inimitability are responsible for their very difficult personality.
Conjunction- Uranus Conjunction Neptune (0°02’, Separating)
This conjunction is responsible for urge for changes. These people tend to change their lives and to interfere with political affairs that they are never satisfied with. If they are publicly engaged, then their reformist efforts have some chances to be successful, otherwise they live in discontent with the circumstances all their life. This conjunction gives people immense originality, intense creative abilities and innovative inspirations.

I just copied and pasted it from your birth chart right here. Do you see those contradictions? I think you will have to cut the Gordian knot so to speak.
July 5, 2021 at 12:06
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » cubic
I can try it, but I can´t consider it as a main activity.
July 5, 2021 at 11:56
(Leo) cubic » Anushka42
" but it´s hard since people hardly pay for astrological consults. I can do it as an additional activity, but I have to study it very well."

Do you know that as a fact? It seems to me fortune telling sort of professions are rather always in demand, especially during hard times. Challenge is you have to study it very well.. then advertise and start gaining clientele.
July 5, 2021 at 11:25
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » nutelina
Jupiter means good things? In fact in astrocartography I saw some jupiter lines but they were too selective. Then, at which lines should I look too?
I didn´t like law because it has nothing to do with creativity and humanities, it was definitely not my thing. It was so boring, didn´t match my interests.

In fact I thought that family is very importabt to me having a cancer moon. I suffer from the fact that I have conflictual relationships with my parents. I don´t get along with them, still I would need family safety to feel well.
I don´t want to live alone, I want to create a relationship with someone and a family. It´s one of the my main goals.
July 5, 2021 at 11:10
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » viv
I´ve been thinking many times about making a living from astrology, but it´s hard since people hardly pay for astrological consults. I can do it as an additional activity, but I have to study it very well.
In fact I was thinking about moving first in Europe, until I find the opportunity of going to US/Canada/Australia.
Thank you.
July 5, 2021 at 10:55
(Aquarius) viv » Anushka42
That makes sense Anushka. I just had the idea you might study astrology seriously and make a living from it. Greek and Latin would definitely be an advantage! And you have to know lots about Greek mythology ... you could do that online anywhere. So you’d have to get a feel for which country you’d like to be in and where your future partner is. And maybe there would be a few years of being a barista or something in helping people to earn some money... USA needs a green card. Canada and Australia usually let young people in to travel and pick fruit etc on short term working holidays. Both these countries advertise an occupations wanted list every few months which is about the only way to get a long term visa apart from getting a degree in the country and applying to stay. UK I think will still have preferential treatment for EU citizens for a while and Ireland is part of the EU so you could easily go there (They speak a kind of English, joking I loved Ireland)

With regard to Chiron in the tenth I know a just-retired head of training in a counselling organisation who has Chiron in the tenth. Sure she went into the field partly to sort her own issues but then she became an expert! There were struggles with recognition for her role in the organisation but she was an enormous force for good and impacted many lives with being a wise Chiron-ic teacher, healer and mentor. Best V
July 5, 2021 at 10:18
(Taurus) nutelina » Anushka42
You can look for the planets, perhaps Jupiter (expansion) where do their lines go over? For Cancer moon, home is very important, maybe indeed family is what you need. How is your own family, do you miss them?

There´s something with your 10th house and ruler in the 4th. And Chiron in 10th...

Chiron in the 10th House
No matter how hard these people try, they fail to achieve the social status that you believe they deserve. While they work so hard for public well-being, others enjoy their place under the Sun. These people often do a lot for the general public, and instead of acknowledgement they face persecution. This injury never stops hurting and never heals completely even when things are corrected later on.
July 5, 2021 at 10:12
(Taurus) nutelina » Anushka42
In your birth chart you can read about Jupiter square Neptune for example.

OK you answered my questions I had. I was thinking you´d foremost want a family with Cancer moon.

I think if you read your birth chart you will read that you might always be looking for something. What about philosophy in law? What made you not like law?
July 4, 2021 at 18:03
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » viv
I´m interested in people. The truth is that since i was 14 I wanted to study classics and teach greek and latin, or I could study philosophy, because I like to work with culture, in cultural fields, I still don´t know what exactly, but an intellectual mansion, something that has to do with the ancients and with communication.
I choosed law at 19 years old because I had troubled issues with a boy who offended me, who hurted me, so I stubborned in going for law not because I liked it, but because at those times I thought it would make me feel someone important by status, so that everyone could see I would be a lawyer.
In fact I have to go where I like but I don´t know if I can settle down easily and what are thejob opportunities there. But I have to go fist to look for that. I like the idea of going to the US or Canada, but it´s hard to get the visa or green card. So an idea could be that I can go for some time in an european country until I get the permit to go to US/Canada.
In fact you gave me a good idea, I can go to a library and look at books.
I don´t know kiva, I will look for that.
My intention is to find a job I like, to be stimulated, to have more energy, a place that gives me positivity, and to get married and build a family, even this is very important. It is important for me to find a place where I could be in a relationship.

Thank you.
July 4, 2021 at 17:37
(Aquarius) viv » Anushka42
well the great thing is you did graduate, and you may find that undergrad degree in demand,just cos its a degree, an entrance level qualification to many professions, govt work, management cadetships...(btw my cousin didn´t have a Masters either, she learnt on the job.)

No one cares about your grade unless you want to apply for post graduate study. The real issue is what kind of work will inspire you? Are you interested in people, social issues,(that Jupiter) or something else you really suppressed in order to do law against your conscience? What crossed your mind at 18.66 years at the first moon node?

There´s a drop down menu on the left on astro cartography pages Try the vacation page with click explanations. But once again, really, I think it´s about you being honest with yourself. Which countries appeal, fascinate, call to you? If money (and Covid) wasn´t an issue where would you go? Look on at entrepreneurs in developing countries and learn what they are doing, usually with very little. Go into a library and pull out a bunch of National Geographics and look at the pictures, pull out all the travel books and dream...walk around tasting possibilities then zero in.

You can always teach English as a foreign language then get a job in an Asian country where English is the business language, if that appeals.

Do you want to travel at all? Maybe you want to work in a country inn and then have a family?

To my mind a great job is one you love, never mind the status.

It´s late here so maybe someone else can go deeper into your chart...
Let us know about progress.
July 4, 2021 at 17:13
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » viv
I can only speak english. I know a little of greek. In case, I could learn a bit before the language of the country I decide to go to, but I need a country where I can find a first job only in english, until I learn the language. So a country where english is spoken a lot.
July 4, 2021 at 17:01
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » viv
As I replied to nutelina, I cannot work with law because I don´t have the master degree and I don´t want it. I don´t think the would employ me seeing that it took so long and and with a very low grade.
In fact I thought about traveling some tears before deciding where to settle down, but I´m 28, I´m not so young anymore. I can try sone places. But which countries could be more favorable?
I used astrocartography at astro, but I can´t find the interpretation of the graphic.
July 4, 2021 at 16:56
(Aquarius) Anushka42 » nutelina
It is hard to find job in Italy if you are not specialised in something. The matter for me is that I totally don´t like the legal field, in fact I graduated very lately, it took very long time to be finished, and with a low grade. So, even if I wanted, I don´t have the qualification to work with law, with legal affairs. It needs prepared people. As for lawyers, it needs a master degree, you can´t become a lawyer only with bachelor. So we have to take in consideration other fields, that have nothing to do with law.
As for people here, the fact is that I don´t have feeling with these people, nor with the place in general.
How can I see jupiter squares?
July 4, 2021 at 16:26
(Aquarius) viv
Hi Annushka

as you probably know you are right in the middle of your Saturn return which is very much about your identity.Chris Brennan Astrologer has a great piece on his website that I read this morning about managing your Saturn Return.

My immediate thought is that you might use your law degree working in an NGO or charitable organisation. I have a young cousin who is a lawyer. She moved from NZ to Paris then London working in international law for a well known charity.She goes to various countries in Africa and elsewhere and nowadays back to London and absolutely loves it. You have the discipline for law but your Jupiter in the eleventh, which can be about serving groups, probably
would not be happy in commercial contract law etc.

You don´t say which languages you speak but if you live in Italy and speak English the UK is an obvious possibility.In big cities there you don´t need a car licence, unlike Australia, Canada or the USA ! You can learn when you have some money. A few years travel is a good idea anyway, especially if you haven´t found "your tribe." As the last person suggested put your data into an astro cartography site too just for fun and see what sparks your interest is pretty good. I haven´t used the one on here. Then why not apply for a few positions? You don´t have to accept them!

Best Viv
July 4, 2021 at 15:37
(Taurus) nutelina
I haven´t looked at your chart but if you have studied law and you can´t find a job then either there are no jobs or it isn´t really your thing. For Cancer the home is very important. Being able to speak languages is important and maybe it is the city where you live which is too big to meet people who you have met before.

You can look at astrocartography.

Upon further inspection:

You North Node would suggest Law wasn´t such a bad idea.

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