I´m so over of my 12th house

June 19, 2021 at 22:04 (UT/GMT)
(Pisces) moongirl1
I´m so over of my 12th house
Hello. I have a huge 6 and 12 houses, so I have three planets in the 12th house. Despite the fact that I have not experienced much isolation, I have a huge number of phobias and fears since childhood. My psychiatrist diagnosed me with obsessive-compulsive disorder. I´ve been struggling with self-harm since I was a teenager. When I read the description of 12th house, I realize that self-undoing is all I have left. If it wasn´t for my mom, I probably would have killed myself long ago, but I don´t want to upset her. I just don´t understand why I was born with this fate. I don´t want to be too fatalistic and whine about the unfairness of the world, I just really don´t understand why I was born, if in the end I have to destroy myself. I thought this was just a temporary troubling phase of my life, but the planets in the 12th house will be in effect for the rest of my life. I will always suffer, and there is no hope of my recovery. What a trash.

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June 22, 2021 at 01:21
(Pisces) moongirl1 » tomdos
Thank you for your motivation. This is what I need.
June 22, 2021 at 01:20
(Pisces) moongirl1 » s81
Thanks, it’s really interesting!
June 21, 2021 at 07:45
(Leo) tomdos
This may seem a bit harsh but I mean well.

First, do not blame the sky and planets. They are not the cause, they are just a symbol. Fate is something you carry within yourself, something that cannot be dodged. You create your future fate based on how you deal with your current fate (ie. the one you created for yourself in the past). Its a constant flow. ACCEPTING this and accepting your own responsibility is the first step and HUGE relief. It grants inner freedom and also the energy you are currently refusing and are even fighting against will be at your disposal.

This is inevitable, no matter how hard you try to avoid the conflict, even by taking your own actual life. Next time things will get even more oppressing and demanding.

Since I also have Saturn and Jupiter in the 12th, I can relate quite a bit. You were born near the previous great Jupiter-Saturn conjunction, which is a call to spiritual progress for every human. I was born during the one before that, thats why the positions are similar. My harshest crisis was around my 20 years of age. Took a few years. And I think I can afford to say that your problem is more spiritual-based than you can imagine. Saturn and Jupiter pairing in the 12th in such a manner indicate that you should not look for the answers outside. They will NEVER satisfy you. You may have a tendency to relate the futility of all life and the world to a romantic relationship (or a lack of it), but it is a false flag, a projection of inner problem, of inner call. The most difficult and misleading projection.

And if your life seems futile, there is always a noble option of spending it in service to the others rather than giving it up. If it does not feel like an option to you, than it is time to admit that it is simply a selfishness that drives you.

I strongly suggest you try and take full responsibility for your life as soon as possible. Responsibility truly means being able to response, to answer for everything that happens in your life, to relate to it no matter how unpleasant or detached it seems. Every single thing, event, thought or feeling in your everyday life is fully related to you through your perception and psyche. If you give up on any of them, you are giving up part of your responsibility and thus giving up a part of control of your liife and fate. Yes, you can then blame the world for anythig that happens - but only because you allowed it in the first place.

Please do not take this personally, the problem of responsibility is actually the most crucial and most actual spiritual problem of the whole modern mankind, which is actually very immature. People do not even feel responsible for their own thoughts and feelings. Blaming others for how we feel is just the tip of the iceberg of our spiritual immaturity. Blaming astrology is on the same level.

I am just stressing this in your case as I feel it concerns you more as you are probably ready to do something with it - unlike the majority of people. And being ready actually means that life is going to push you painfully into realizing it. The golden key you are looking for is in your attitude to your responsibility. Once (if) you manage to accept it, the planets in your 12th will reveal their secrets and blessing. What seems like a curse now will be a blessing from another level of view. You just need to get there and thats something noone can do for yu.

Good luck :29:
June 21, 2021 at 05:18
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com » moongirl1
System message: Post has been written by user Moon_Queen, who already deleted profile on this website:
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"Can this work with family and friends?"

Yes, of course, you just keep closer ones you have better composites with :15:
June 21, 2021 at 03:28
(Taurus) s81
Well, it´s a miracle human race still exists, so I think the better is to realize that existence is just a miracle, we can´t explain it but we are here hah.

We also know nobody solved a single problem in history of humanity by blaming determinism, past lives, karma, or whatever, it´s not practical at all. You are here and now, and you have a birth chart like all of us, so be practical, problems are problems since they have solutions.

By the things you say, I looked at your chart and saw you have Saturn at 12th house, so there it is your father figure (Saturn), hidden to your eyes (12th house). So I checked Capricorn (ruled by Saturn) and there you have your 8th house cusp, the house of transformation, of "rebirth", etc, and the 9th house cusp, the house of philosophies, foreign countries, etc, about the huge size of the world and the experiences that you can have there.

Astrology has tools like astrocartography that help us all to check where we can tune up our experience in life to work better as humans, to know better ourselves too, and many things more. You wont "escape" from your birth chart, but you can experience it in more constructive ways for sure. At least what you write doesn´t look any constructive for you at all. So, I think you can try some relocation charts to broaden your horizons, everybody sees the world in a different way when changing locations, and astrocartography shows how does it works. Sometimes you have to go and find yourself elsewhere, there are thousands and thousands of people that can tell you their stories about that. Knowledge is there now, the tools today are one click away, let´s use them.

And no, may be that´s not the only solution you have, but it´s a nice one to open your mind to different possibilities that life has there for you if you decide to go for them. Your MC is at 1 degree, I think you will do it.

Good luck! :36:
June 21, 2021 at 02:42
(Pisces) moongirl1 » Moon_Queen
Can this work with family and friends? Or does it mean a romantic partner? Thank you for the idea!
June 21, 2021 at 02:40
(Pisces) moongirl1 » Castlewallsxo
In my heart of hearts, I hope that doesn´t happen. But I´ve been on the edge so many times that I´m really scared.
June 20, 2021 at 23:11
(Libra) leorising
Saturn is always a place of testing, you have him in the 12th house, I believe he denies the affairs of the house until yours 30 years old… and then he releases. who knows what lesson you will have and will be able to help others… we all have blessings disguised as crosses… after a while you can see the reason for everything
June 20, 2021 at 21:14
(Taurus) Rosincvist
The statement is made all the time "It can´t get any worse than this!"
The road to hell is not shades of grey, it is decorated with gaudy flags and Hell has fifteen levels! :20: :21: :20: :21:
You would find in your next life "retrogradation" things just sorta kinda "backwards" from the way they should be!
June 20, 2021 at 19:48
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com
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"I thought this was just a temporary troubling phase of my life, but the planets in the 12th house will be in effect for the rest of my life. I will always suffer, and there is no hope of my recovery."

As far as I know, the one of the best ways to "survive" hard natal is troughout composite (natural marriage) that you´ll build with the partner of your inner choice.

Your SN is in the 8th house of energy merge (love - natural marriage) and it is the startnig point of evolution of your soul that should peak in Cancer 2nd house, where you´ll fully learn to attach to your own body troughout pleasure.

This does not mean that you should start the hunt for a partner right now, and choose whoever you feel slightest attraction, but to have a hope and peace that the one you feel as fully yours, will eventually appear and make life sweeter and easier.
June 20, 2021 at 08:28
(Leo) cubic
"I just don´t understand why I was born with this fate. "

No one really knows. But past life theories give the brain something to work with, and "you chose this fate" narrative reduces complaining and psychological work for astrologers to do, when their clients start asking.

My view is that it´s due to our parent´s experiences prior conception/birth, since past life narratives can be applied to our parent´s life etc. In 12th seems it´s more likely tumultuous/traumatic sort of experience.

"I don´t want to be too fatalistic and whine about the unfairness of the world, I just really don´t understand why I was born, if in the end I have to destroy myself. I thought this was just a temporary troubling phase of my life, but the planets in the 12th house will be in effect for the rest of my life. I will always suffer, and there is no hope of my recovery. What a trash."

I do not like it myself, but living abroad seems to alleviate it.. not sure to what degree. Why does that work I´m not sure. Perhaps because the planets can pop out of the 12th into the 1st or 11th(?) if you move significantly far from the place of birth, perhaps you don´t have to go that far out.. I wish lol.
June 19, 2021 at 23:17
(Pisces) fishscales
"I just don´t understand why I was born with this fate."

Karma. Everything we are "born with" is a result of our own actions in past lives.

"I just really don´t understand why I was born, if in the end I have to destroy myself."

Everyone´s mission in life is to "destroy themselves", because what we identify as "ourselves" is about 97% ego: something which needs to be destroyed. This is the point of human existence.

With all those 12th house planets, meditation may be a good solution for you, but expect your subconscious to throw up some things you don´t want to see/would rather not deal with.

Does not mean they can´t be dealt with.
June 19, 2021 at 22:45
(Libra) Castlewallsxo
Well if you use Whole Signs you only have one planet in the twelfth house.

Regardless there are positive aspects to the twelfth house that you can lean into.

And just because self-undoing is one connotation of the twelfth house doesn´t mean that has to happen to you. There have been many people with twelfth house placements who haven´t destroyed themselves.


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