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Where is my sun
January 25, 2021 at 15:14 (UT/GMT)

Where is my sun
Dear community,
as a Leo rising I am paying attention to sign and position of Sun as a chart ruler. It´s in the sign of Capricorn. I see myself and the others view me as a 100% Leo, which is my ASC fault and the degree of it. And I don´t mind it, I feel fire element very strong, although my chart might not suggest that. I see my Capricorn traits especially while achieving some goals and approach towards them and I can see myself learning in life to master that approach.
The trouble is the Sun placement, which changes depending on house system. Although I have a night chart, Sun is still important.
Whole Sign system, which is adviced by many modern astrologers, places my sun in the 6th house. And I must say, I don´t feel like any description of it I´ve found yet matches my personality and life, which doesn´t center around this topics. The only thing I would say, is I look after my diet and working out but not obssesively. My Chiron gave me obesity in early years, so I keep my eyes on my weight to not go there.
On the other hand, many other systems place it in the 5th, which makes more sense, because I thrive for creative approach at anything I do, wanting to express my ideas, views and get credit for them. I work creatively in communication, and what´s more - since early days I was drawing, writing, creating photos, I´m into poetry and write regularly about my feelings and points of life. Although being in relationship I had many flings, and get crushed on somebody easily. Also I have very bright and optimistic approach towards life and always make or do laugh at anything.
This compared to shining while being devoted to work, completing tasks or making some routine or order just does not click for me.
What do you think? Where is my sun? :)
Many thanks for your more experienced opinions.
as a Leo rising I am paying attention to sign and position of Sun as a chart ruler. It´s in the sign of Capricorn. I see myself and the others view me as a 100% Leo, which is my ASC fault and the degree of it. And I don´t mind it, I feel fire element very strong, although my chart might not suggest that. I see my Capricorn traits especially while achieving some goals and approach towards them and I can see myself learning in life to master that approach.
The trouble is the Sun placement, which changes depending on house system. Although I have a night chart, Sun is still important.
Whole Sign system, which is adviced by many modern astrologers, places my sun in the 6th house. And I must say, I don´t feel like any description of it I´ve found yet matches my personality and life, which doesn´t center around this topics. The only thing I would say, is I look after my diet and working out but not obssesively. My Chiron gave me obesity in early years, so I keep my eyes on my weight to not go there.
On the other hand, many other systems place it in the 5th, which makes more sense, because I thrive for creative approach at anything I do, wanting to express my ideas, views and get credit for them. I work creatively in communication, and what´s more - since early days I was drawing, writing, creating photos, I´m into poetry and write regularly about my feelings and points of life. Although being in relationship I had many flings, and get crushed on somebody easily. Also I have very bright and optimistic approach towards life and always make or do laugh at anything.
This compared to shining while being devoted to work, completing tasks or making some routine or order just does not click for me.
What do you think? Where is my sun? :)
Many thanks for your more experienced opinions.


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January 28, 2021 at 13:25

But fun fact about the Sun sign. It´s says there that the Sun represents how and where we want to became a hero, where and how we want to shine and became a star. Therefore sign and placement play important role. Sun refuses to be what it´s not, and we have to understand our sun to feed it in order to be successfull and happy in life.
So as I´ve said before - Sun puts a spotlight on some areas and traits in life we´re destined to master during our journey. It´s not who we are, but who we will became at specific stage - depends if it´s family, work, social circles or spirituality :).

January 28, 2021 at 10:00

That´s interesting however what you say about traditional astrology, because to an extent I think that I would consider it more correct than some of the more modern additions.. yet also it seems to be overly negative and "superstitious" in parts if you will.
Actually I really agree about mc too, as I have read that we grow into whatever sign rules our mc. Although I think I have also read this about ours sun too..
Actually the the thing I believe I would have to disagree with the most is only mercury. Mercury is our mind, and we are our mind essentially not our body, as our mind dictates where our body goes. And thinking patterns develop behaviour (again it would be accumulative with the other domiant signs etc)
Also I agree about house placements and I want to look into this more as I think that I may feel the influence of the houses equally at least to the sign of those houses and where several planets belong

January 27, 2021 at 11:52


January 27, 2021 at 11:50

Not only ASC shows personality, but also planets. I know persons, who are blessed by fiery sun (brown hair, skin and very well built) and swam in the moonlight lake (black hair, pale skin and skinny). Saturn in gemini will have long fingers, if aspected with mercury. Aries mars can leave some scars on face. If in bad aspect with saturn will make person bald early e.c. Venus in taurus blessed by moon will give good lookings, while moon gemini represents well-formed, comely person, but not fortunate if not aspecting jupiter, sun or venus.

January 27, 2021 at 11:35

Anyway for me the rising sign and it´s ruler are the first thing I look at, and the dispositors. MC is also important, because when you meet somebody for the 1st time you meet with their Midheaven. Sun shows us the sort of lesson to learn or thing to master in our life, like a hidden potential to develop - related to house and sign topics. Where as moon is the way where and how we self structure, find safety, deal inside with outside things. Mercury is important, but I wouldn´t put that much emphasis on it. Of course he says about how we think and how we communicate, but there are more things to be consider.
And last but not least: aspects which can help connect the dots. Somebody´s planet might be unaspected or poorly aspected or creating tention with angular points - this says a lot. Also planetary neighboors also influence each other. I think Uranus and Neptune color my Sun a lot, no matter that they are the outer planets, where the house placement not sign placement tells more.

January 27, 2021 at 10:38

The other thing about why people don´t relate to a sign they have I think is because they don´t relate to what is supposed to be one or two of the key characteristics, as well as characteristics melding in with other signs that share the same instincts
I could also be said to have done this, deny characteristics of my sun sign because I am not loud, or in you face or arrogant, but I have realised that I prize dignity, trust, loyalty, self expression and direct communications, and where does that come from? Most probably leo lol..

January 27, 2021 at 09:19

Although my sun is poorly aspected, only to the MC in Aries, whose ruler is in 5th house Sag - so fire fire. And when looking at decans my ASC is in Jupiter decan, so it links more towards Sag themes.
I´ve heard that planets in domiciles are kind of lazy and 12th house placements it´s kinda hidden, well it is about subconcious.
One astrologer told me that there is no stronger or weaker, as energies works and blends together but if he would have to choose the stronges he would point out Venus Pluto conjunction.

January 27, 2021 at 03:06


January 26, 2021 at 11:58


January 26, 2021 at 07:22

So with Taurus you might learn in life to be more calm, steady, building comfort zone for yourself and be the rock of support for yourself and for others and maybe even be a little stubborn.

January 26, 2021 at 04:08



January 25, 2021 at 19:31



January 25, 2021 at 16:59

At younger age I was overweight, which makes me feel less worthy and escaping social situations or any occasions to shine. I was bullied, laughed at and called at in school, I´ve never went to pools or anywhere I had to undress, even to gym.
This is very 1st house topics (or also conjuncting the ASC).
On the other hand, I was very keep-to-myself kind of approaching it and pretending everything is fine. I´ve overcome it thanks to diet and excersising but alone, without nobody seeing it. That´s very 12th house like.
Fortunately now, since my mid 20s I´ve gained my confidence and learn how to be healthy confident and to love myself, where I finally believed I´m unique and worthy. And healing that wound is very satisfying.

January 25, 2021 at 16:53

I´m leaning towards Equal houses, as I said, because I believe in the idea of blending energies in our birth chart. So having planet in one sign in the house ruled by other sign blends those enegies.
Maybe I haven´t developed 6th house traits yet or the outer planets twist the usual topics that much. It might be wishful thinking, but I have to admit, in every source I´ve read - in both myself and my moms case the sun fits better in Equal Houses placement.
I know usually sun in 6th house isn´t that strong, but for my chart I believe it´s important since it rules it. But for quick list I can tick almost every 5th house traits, besides children, whereas in the 6th just one :D.

January 25, 2021 at 16:51

Actually, the Pacidus House system is the one most used by professional astrologers - although Whole Sign has been getting a lot of press lately - as has Hellenistic astrology - but truly - these are not as popular among professionals.
I´m not saying that Whole Sign has no merit or that hellenistic doesn´t have merit - but I don´t use either - and they don´t speak to me nearly as much as other systems. I do in fact play with different house systems and can often come up with very similar readings using them. But I still think Placidus is more accurate. It´s just my opinion.
Anyway, natal charts speak in themes. You have Leo rising with Chiron on it - which means there´s a problem with Leo - maybe you are too egocentric, driven to please others, or want too much attention. Negative Leo can be arrogant and selfish. Whatever negative Leo traits you have, you are supposed to turn them into positive Leo qualities.
Then you have Mars and Mercury in the 5th house regardless of house system. So, that´s a lot of Leo energy.
Capricorn Sun will work hard and seriously - and no matter what, with Leo rising and Mercury-Mars in 5th in Sagittarius - you will be fiery and creative and goal-oriented. You´ve also got North Node, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn, 6th - Saturn in Uranus - so you´ll like to be of service to others in some way (hopefully) - you will want to be a more inventive type Capricorn - so more creativity brought by Uranus in Capricorn.
Moon in 12th is also a very creative placement - very tuned into the Muse. Regardless of what house your Sun is in - these things will be true.
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January 25, 2021 at 16:23





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