Injections of personal bias and beliefs in readings. - Discussions, questions

IIyyaarr13 Think about the anecdotes involving mental health professionals, they can be come codependent on their patients and do blunders half as embarrassingly as the total frauds
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Nadereme » JayJayAstrology I’m reminded of Buddha’s story and how the full moon was so impactful.

I guess the question we should ask ourselves is, is it really astrology that is limited, or the skill of the particular astrologer? I’ve seen some really freaky stuff from mundane astrologers and those who utilize a ‘micro astrology’, tracking stuff by the seconds with divisional charts etc.

VGB Yo lo veo, también cuando trato de entender la carta de otra persona.

A veces pienso que ser objetivo es una ilusión. A veces me parece que la objetividad, en términos psicológicos y experienciales no existe.

Además, cada planeta, signo y casa es un conjunto de significados, y las combinaciones que se forman para crear un discurso lógico dentro de la dualidad de "bien y mal", "favorable y desfavorable", "afinidad y tensión", varían según los ojos que observan la carta e incluso de un momento a otro.

Creo en la astrología como un sentencia multidireccional, subjetiva al observarla y objetiva al transformarse en experiencias con el paso de los años.

Saludos.

JayJayAstrology » Nadereme Where did you hear that the moon phases and outer planets are linked to enlightenment?

Enlightenment - is earned.

Nadereme » JayJayAstrology I don’t mean just natal, also transit, progression, return, etc charts. I’ve heard that the moon phases and the role of outer planets have been linked to ‘enlightenment’. Astrology is so layered, and perhaps it’s that many don’t have the keys to access it fully just yet?

JayJayAstrology No, I don´t think astrology reflects choices made and awareness levels - it does not show how conscious a person is. It won´t show cultural beliefs and biases either.

I don´t think people magically change their circumstances, but with some work, over time (usually), they can - at least change some of them.

I think there is a destiny in the chart - in that your natal chart gives you the energetics you are working with. But as all signs and planets have positive and negative attributes - you can work toward adopting the positive attributes. I was born with Virgo rising and I will always act as a Virgo - but I´ve gone from behaving in negative Virgo ways - having a lot of self-doubt and anxiety - to analyzing myself and others to understand. I´m not the same Virgo rising I was.

I don´t know what other astrologers are doing so much - but it doesn´t surprise me what you´re saying. I can believe it.

It is probably impossible for astrologers to be TOTALLY objective. We do our best, and some are better than others, but we are human beings and not perfect. Anyone getting a reading needs to realize a human being is doing the reading - and the reading is as good as their skill, wisdom and experience in objectivity. There are many people doing readings who are relative beginners. My readings today are better than last year´s. And next year, my readings will be even better. So it is - we learn by doing and get better with time.

Sometimes giving an astrologer feedback as to how you received what they´ve said can be invaluable to them.
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Nadereme » ENDVRE I see astrology like a magnifying scope. It can either be very general or very specific depending on analysis and intuition and techniques used. Usually if you’re just reading natal charts it won’t tell you everything. Then there are different areas within astrology like medical, horary, electional, and all sorts of predictive techniques. If you’re looking for very precise, it can be done but it takes more time.

ENDVRE In your view has it been proved that astrology can accurately predict people´s future?

People need hope in their lives