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Feb 17, 2022 - 17:11
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Sag_Stellium
Patrick Watson and Chris Brennan.
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Feb 15, 2022 - 07:06
Natal Astrology: Aquarius dark side !
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » leftORright
Aquarius is a fixed air sign ruled by Saturn.
I’d say the dark side of Aquarius includes coldness, stubbornness, lack of empathy or a god-complex.
I associate Aquarius with sacrificing for “the greater good”, whatever that means, or a “repair of the world”. Utilitarian, for better or worse.
I see Aquarius as a castle in the air. Equally utopian and dystopian. Things could be so much better, but right now, everything sucks.

Aquarius could be a humanitarian or a misanthrope. The humanitarianism of Aquarius is more secular than religious: cool, non-clingy. The Sun is in detriment there; Aquarius has more faith in itself or (maybe) the human species than Solar gods, kings or father figures, for better or worse.
The Sun in Leo attracts attention in conventional ways; the Sun in Aquarius attracts attention in unconventional ways.
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Jan 25, 2022 - 18:13
General Astrology: outer planets ⛢♆♇
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » OS*
Uranus - Rebellion, Breakthroughs in technology, Disruption, Revolution
Neptune - Escapism, Illusions & Delusions, Dreams, Mass Entertainment
Pluto - Making big things small & small things big, Tyranny, Death, Corruption
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Jan 24, 2022 - 14:32
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Leo Moon
“Omicron” is just an anagram of “Moronic”.
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Jan 24, 2022 - 14:27
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » rohini moon
Deftones - ‘My Own Summer’
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Jan 24, 2022 - 14:21
General Astrology: outer planets ⛢♆♇
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » OS*
I only consider the influence of those planets in a person’s chart if they’re making strong aspects to the inner planets. I’m more focused on the Ascendant, Sun and Moon.
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Nov 18, 2021 - 06:17
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » astreo
I don’t know anyone with fallen planets, but I think I can give some explanation.
The nature of the planet conflicts with the nature of the sign, obviously. The planet is definitely an outsider there, disrespected or ignored. I like to think of a fallen planet as a paradox.

For example: the Sun in Libra shines and individuates itself by listening to others, blending in, and not actually shining at all.
Jupiter in Capricorn finds expansion, abundance and optimism in restriction, pessimism and boring, depressing topics.
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Nov 7, 2021 - 10:57
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » astreo
Favourite Element: Water - Not always calm and peaceful. Sometimes violent and untameable like the sea. Hydrates but also drowns man.
Favourite Sign: Scorpio - Duh. Still waters run deep.

I envy Gemini, believing it can lighten the baggage that I carry. However, that may be naïve. I may be describing a figment instead. I haven’t interacted with many people, let alone those Airy or Gemini types.
Looking back on what I said, I’d also expect Taurus to bring some emotional solace or comfort: soft and practical. Again, I’m probably describing a figment.
So I tend to idealise and envy those two signs.
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Aug 17, 2021 - 13:40
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Random Stranger
(I realised that it’s infamously rare to put Scorpio in a positive light. This post isn´t helping. It’s really hard, but sometimes, you have to give the devil his due.)

- Introduction -

The Moon is in fall in Scorpio. Scorpio and Capricorn (the Moon’s detriment) are the hardest signs for the Moon to be in. In Scorpio, Lunar significations such as (but not limited to) comforts, emotions and nurture are disrespected. Life is unsupported here; the Moon is unhappy to act on behalf of Mars, whose desires conflict with the Moon’s. You could say the Moon is ignored or disrespected here.

- Scorpio’s Qualities -

Polarity: Nocturnal
Mode: Fixed
Element: Water
Ruler: :155: (Mars)
Symbol: :178: (Scorpion)

- Positives -

However, not everyone with this placement is doomed to failure. If one transforms into the Phoenix, they can harness the best qualities of this placement.

The Moon in Scorpio makes for an excellent psychologist, one who understands how other people work. This is advantageous in understanding and supporting one’s loved ones but also in defeating threats and enemies, spotting their weaknesses. Whether the Moon in Scorpio uses this to help or hurt others is up to them.

The evolved Moon in Scorpio can make for a truly compassionate individual, one who understands and assuages the pain of others. An example is supporting a soldier suffering from PTSD but this is not the only example.

But the Moon in Scorpio can also indicate an emotionally strong/stoic person who can brave all kinds of hardship and pain. This can make a loyal, reliable ally. There is also the grim determination to achieve one’s goals. This Moon sign may do for a ruthlessly protective man/woman, protecting their friends and family.

However, it’s not easy to transform or evolve. That requires opening up to others and letting go of grudges or negative emotions that eat the individual from within. There needs to be a catharsis to release all of it - but unfortunately, that’s not common.

- Negatives -

The Moon nurtures by, paradoxically, stinging others. The Moon’s comfort is in privacy and, paradoxically, intensity. The Moon has to make home in a marshy, dark, dreary, bloody battlefield. Only Mars thrives in such a sign.
Don’t put the receptive Moon on such a battlefield. She’ll be shell-shocked. She’d be giving a two-thousand yard stare.

It’s like having war and death from within: dark, turbulent emotions too uncomfortable and intense for the Moon. Scorpio prevents the Moon from naturally expressing her emotions, hence the adjective “secretive” to describe this sign; Scorpio hides these emotions to avoid being seen as vulnerable or weak, hence its hard exoskeleton.
These emotions are bottled up but don’t dissipate; instead, they grow worse. For example, bottled up anger breeds toxic grudges and a negative, venomous being. Those grudges should’ve been let go of a long time ago, so Scorpio doesn’t obsess over butchering or poisoning those who have wronged them. Okay, Scorpio doesn’t always obsess over revenge.

Whilst determination is generally a positive, there is the risk of becoming so obsessed with one’s goals that one heartlessly tramples on others to achieve them; climbing the social ladder or getting noticed by someone, who knows?

The Moon in Scorpio does not believe in the goodness of others. By always keeping its emotional exoskeleton/armour on, it stays distant from others at the cost of relationships. Scorpio may be so paranoid as to believe that others are plotting its downfall. The lesson should be to trust others more. However, you’re not paranoid if you’re proven correct.

Scorpions aren´t the only nocturnal predators. Vampires are predators too.
Emotional vampirism is definitely a risk with this placement: draining others or getting drained emotionally. This is where abuse, manipulation, both neglect and jealousy/possessiveness thrive: by feeding on, not feeding, the vitality of others.
Interestingly, Bram Stoker, author of Dracula (the world’s most famous vampire), had the Sun and Moon in Scorpio.

- Conclusion -

The Moon is in fall in Scorpio because her nature contradicts Mars’ and Scorpio’s. She nurtures life; Scorpio kills life.
You can’t be emotionally open or vulnerable without expecting risk. Therefore, it’s hard (but not impossible) to be motherly in the nocturnal home of Mars.
Interestingly, though they are trine, the rulers of Cancer (the Moon) and Scorpio (Mars) are in fall in each other’s sign.

Why should you be motherly in a fight, let alone a war? Why should you care for someone who doesn’t care for you, or more accurately, wants you dead? Why should you keep caring for someone who benefits at your expense?

In Scorpio, it’s safer and easier to give a cold shoulder than a shoulder to cry on. There are strengths to being a wholly martial beast like Scorpio. But there are weaknesses too.
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Aug 17, 2021 - 12:22
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Random Stranger
It’s been two days since the last post. I’m not content with letting it end like this. It’s time I talk about traits of the Moon in Scorpio, even though I don’t have this placement. Not everyone with this placement is the same. Not everyone is vengeful or manipulative. Some with this Moon sign are genuinely sweet unlike the sign itself.

NOTE: The expression of the Moon in Scorpio varies not only by the aspects and house of the Moon (she joys in the 3rd), but also the placement and aspects to Mars (he joys in the 6th). Some write Pluto as the ruler (or a co-ruler) of Scorpio but I reject this; I also reject ties between Scorpio and the 8th house (unless one has Aries rising). Only consider Pluto if he aspects the Moon. Finally, the sect of the chart matters. Someone born at day (with the Sun above the AC/DC axis) will generally receive worse significations of this placement, as the Moon and Mars are out of sect. Conversely, someone born at night (with the Sun below the AC/DC axis) will generally receive better significations.
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Aug 14, 2021 - 09:37
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Ksuwaves
I agree with what you said about Pluto. Parental neglect and abuse is something I would never put past this sign.
However, I believe Scorpio’s harshness really comes from Mars. Scorpio’s desire to control and dominate is because of Mars, which is incompatible with the Moon’s desire to nurture and be nurtured. Mars fits the themes of death and destruction far better than you may think.

A lot of what Pluto does is unrelated to Scorpio. Rulerships weren’t about affinity or synergy. They were really about ownership and hospitality. I guess people in the past didn’t see anything wrong with Mars’ rulership of Scorpio until they suddenly thought it was “deficient” when Pluto was discovered.

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Aug 13, 2021 - 08:33
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Ksuwaves
I get what you’re coming from. I think Mars and Pluto do conflict with the Moon; in fact, I already said that Mars’ nature conflicts with the Moon’s.
However, even though I believe that Scorpio can transform into the Phoenix, I still find “transformation” to be such an overused word that it’s kind of meaningless.

I reserve the “healing” aspect to an EVOLVED Scorpio Moon. Aren’t mothers expected to nurture their children, which includes healing their trauma? Sure it’s uncomfortable, but I think Cancer (ruled by the Moon) is capable of healing too, so it’s not mostly Scorpionic. Healing is more watery, really. Of course, water doesn’t define the water signs themselves, nor the other way around.
Other than that, I think “wounding” would be more accurate for this placement. What is that venomous tail for anyway?
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Aug 12, 2021 - 15:38
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » viv
Whoa! It’s a relief knowing you’re fine. I guess THAT would be a (but not the only) negative expression of the Moon in Scorpio. Do you have the rest of her chart?
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Aug 12, 2021 - 09:55
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » fishscales
“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - General S. Patton

“The battleline between good and evil runs through the heart of every man.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
And who’s willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?
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Aug 12, 2021 - 09:37
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » fishscales
This is a joke.

“With no power comes no responsibility.” - Kick-Ass
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Aug 12, 2021 - 08:24
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » (dragonfly)
I agree. The Moon (and any other planet) in the 8th can be beneficial depending on other factors (e.g. aspects). The 8th house is often considered unfortunate, but it doesn’t always have to be so in a person’s chart.

However, going back to the Moon in Scorpio and finishing with the 8th house, I reject the 12 Letter Alphabet. Unless you have Aries rising, the 8th house isn’t a Scorpionic house. There are no natural rulers of any of the houses. However, there are planetary joys (e.g. Mars in the 6th), although no planet joys in the 8th.
I’m disregarding a person’s whole chart to focus on the Moon to broadly describe how it expresses itself and why.

That said, one should also take sect into account if looking at one’s own or another’s natal chart. Someone born at day (the Sun above the AC/DC axis) will generally (not always) receive worse significations of the Moon in Scorpio; the Moon and Mars are out of sect. In contrast, someone born at night (the Sun below the AC/DC axis) will generally receive better significations.
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Aug 12, 2021 - 05:51
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » (dragonfly)
I’d argue ALL of the planets are uncomfortable in the 8th house. Only the Moon and Venus are debilitated in Scorpio.

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Aug 11, 2021 - 19:47
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Ways_of_Leavin'
Thanks for the response. I wonder what exactly you’d attribute to Pluto instead of Mars though while I was describing the Moon in Scorpio.
I don’t deem Pluto to be the “higher octave of Mars”; he is dark and deathly, sure, but I can call Scorpio that too without relying on Pluto because Mars is a malefic planet also capable of death and destruction. Saturn, the other malefic, is even more similar to Pluto.

The old rulerships weren’t based on affinity or similarity. To describe it broadly, I’d call it “planetary geometry” or mathematics.
Aries is like Mars because it is RULED by Mars, not because it’s simply a cardinal fire sign.
I don’t think the traditional scheme should’ve been interfered with. I picked the old rulers because there would then be more individual info for people born with Scorpio, Aquarius or Pisces rising. The transcendental planets move so slowly that a lot of people with those ascendant signs will have them in the same sign and house.
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Aug 10, 2021 - 22:52
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Ways_of_Leavin'
My explanation? Here, I will disregard genetics, upbringing and a person’s whole chart. That said, the Moon in Scorpio does vary according to the houses and aspects of not only the Moon, but Mars too.

To put it bluntly, Scorpio, unlike Taurus and Cancer, does not support life; it kills it. Traditionally, it is ruled by Mars and exalts no planets. This fixed water sign isn’t something like a calm, small lake or an abundant, nourishing spring. It’s more like a stagnant swamp or a destructive flood. Cold, hard ice works too.

The problem is that Mars’ nature conflicts with the Moon’s. The Moon wants to be a mother who voluntarily nurtures children; she doesn’t want to be a soldier required to kill other soldiers. Mars is hard and masculine; the Moon is soft and feminine. Mars divides; the Moon collects. Mars wants to conquer; the Moon wants to nurture.
However, at least in Aries (a cardinal fire sign also ruled by Mars), the Sun, the diurnal luminary, is exalted. At least there is life, light and warmth there which Scorpio lacks or threatens.

There is more I want to say here but I’ll leave it there for now. There is something I have to do quickly.
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Aug 10, 2021 - 21:55
General Astrology: Moon in Scorpio - Fall
Sun Sign - ScorpioRandom Stranger » Ways_of_Leavin'
“Relates better”?
Out of all those six, I’d place Cancer and Pisces 1st and 2nd respectively, but Scorpio last. Just my opinion though.
It’s interesting that the traditional rulers of Cancer (Moon) and Scorpio (Mars) are in fall in each other’s sign.

Edit: Okay, I get your point about affinity between water and the Moon.
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